On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM, <
storkus@storkus.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:42:23 -0700, "Joshua Zeidner"
> <jjzeidner@gmail.com> said:
>>
>> I just want to make it abundantly clear that these problems can in
>> no way be blamed on the GOP alone. Perhaps the one piece of
>> legislation that was the most instrumental in bringing us to where we
>> are now was the Financial Services Modernization Act, or Gramm-Leach-
>> which repealed the Glass-Steagull act of the Depression era.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act
>
> OMG!!! I had forgotten about that one! I think you hit the nail on the
> head! I remember when that was being debated (on talk radio and
> elsewhere) a lot of people were saying how bad an idea it was and it
> could lead to some of what caused the depression to happen again. Looks
> like they were right, and probably a lot sooner than even they had
> anticipated!
>
> BTW, I have to make (as I often do) one point again, and I think others
> here have said as well: a lot of what gets blamed on the President has
> little to do with him. The power to make law is Congress'
> responsibility, so most of what's happening can be blamed on them. Yes,
> it's easier to blame it on the figurehead, but it's usually not correct.
> It's also what's so annoying about elections where the candidates keep
> saying, "I'll do this or that," when, as President, they don't have the
> power to do anything but sign or reject the piece of paper that does it.
> Sure, they can "work with", but ultimately it rests in the hands of the
> congress men and women, and how much money they're taking from those
> bribing, er, lobbying them.
Well, Presidential politics has really become its own beast. All
you say is true, but the presidential election is also the way that
our political parties, and many other groups, gauge the tenor of the
nation. Its really the primary mouthpiece of the body politic. So
the election not only determines an important position, it also has
strong tendency to set party tactics and business planning.
>
>> We need to get past these partisan politics. Its quite demoralizing
>> to see people shouting "Obama!" through all this when he has shown
>> nothing but support for the bailout.
>
> Both of them: when it comes to the bailout, they're both on the same
> page--we have no choice. It's why I and a lot of others have been
> saying for years we really have a one party system and which party you
> select just picks which hole you want to get screwed in. I consider
> myself a conservative libertarian and have a hard time voting for for
> any republican because they've gotten so corrupt and so far left.
I will vote for neither of these clowns, out of principle.
> And
> the democrats seem just a step or two away from having to rename
> themselves a socialist party! (Well, at least some of them.)
Nationalist Socialist? :) just kidding, Alan! -jmz
> Too bad
> general elections don't allow write-ins.
>
>> It's time to stop looking...[at] the whole world through the lens of the mainstream media.
>
> Is there ANYONE on this list who would disagree with that? Trouble is,
> is there a real alternative? Other country's media is just as biased in
> one way or another; in fact, I challenge anyone to find a media that's
> even moderately unbiased. :(
>
> Mike
>
>>
>> -jmz
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