Let's just face it, in the end we're just going to bicker about it and
nothing will change because it's all just white noise.
Thanks,
Dan Lund
It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
free scope.
-Niccolo Machiavelli
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Alan Dayley <
alandd@consultpros.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> but the fact that these people haven't showed up would indicate to an
>> objective mind that perhaps we don't have the full story. There have been
>> quite a few credible stories of 911 witnesses being harassed and
>> threatened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rZ_K67OHWw
>>
>> this isn't a new take on this subject, but the fact that we have someone
>> right here who claims to possess such evidence, but refuses to produce it is
>> a bit disconcerting. His alibi: that people mock and deride him when he
>> posts the pictures. If anything he will be mocked if he doesn't post the
>> pictures.
>
> Not-so-hypothetical situation:
>
> A amateur photograph is presented. Taken in a room of any abandoned
> house, there is an artifact of light to one side that looks remarkably
> like a see-through woman in an old fashioned dress.
>
> The believer will point out all the reasons, some very logical, why
> this is a picture of a ghost. The skeptic will point out all the
> reasons, some very logical, why it is some flare or flaw in the film
> or something and therefore not a ghost.
>
> Neither will convince the other, no matter how long they discuss.
> Why? Because they each see through their own prejudices and beliefs.
> They each see their own truth.
>
> Now to the topic at hand: While I too question and wonder about all
> the events surrounding 9/11/2001, I generally think the people on the
> two extremes of the discussions will never reconcile. And, no matter
> the evidence presented, including silly government actions like
> confiscating video and film, very few will ever change sides or
> convince one to believe the other story.
>
> If Charles does or does not produce photos, it will do little to
> decide the debate here or in the world at large. The believers will
> continue to believe and the skeptics won't. And if emotions run high
> in an unproductive debate the only result will be broken
> relationships.
>
> Thanks all for keeping the discussion on a pretty even keel. For
> myself, I'm going to make use of the OT: tag and my delete key for
> this discussion. Probably. :^)
>
> Alan
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