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Author: Dan Lund
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To: iscreamkid, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT - Have you seen this ad?
You might want to talk to the people that hit the bikers then.
I almost died.

Thanks,
Dan Lund
It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
free scope.
-Niccolo Machiavelli



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM, koder <> wrote:
> Don't forget to factor in safety. One good wreck and your cost per mile
> can go up with great rapidity. I am getting tired of attending funerals
> of bikers. It is only two so far, but that is two too many.
>
> I doubt you have ever had a problem. . . yet.
>
> Harold
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Lund <>
> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list
> <>
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
> Subject: Re: OT - Have you seen this ad?
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:34:08 -0700
>
> I find a 50-55 mpg motorcycle helps out tremendously. My last tank
> ran $0.07/mile, and I was pounding the throttle.
>
> The metric is always $/mile, since the miles you drive always change
> depending on what you are doing. Also, driving style (highway,
> surface roads, acceleration amounts, etc) has a huge impact on fuel
> economy.
> I've found that the Toyota Corolla gets 40 mpg on the highway on the
> long-run between Phoenix and San Diego. (~360 miles) Not too shabby,
> about 9 gallons... pretty good when my motorcycle uses about 7 gallons
> on that trip.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan Lund
> It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
> to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
> act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
> free scope.
> -Niccolo Machiavelli
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Eric Cope <> wrote:
>> I wouldn't be too excited about 32 mpg (I saw the 37s and 38s, thats
>> better). Over 40 and thats good... (side note, have you safely aired up your
>> tires to 40-45psi, that will get you 1-3 more mpg). The true metric is not
>> $/mile, but $/day.
>>
>> $/gallon * gallons/mile * miles/day = $/day. If you spend $.10/mile but
>> commute to LA from Phoenix, its still wasteful... but if you spend $1.5/day
>> on fuel, thats making a difference. because if its only $1.50 a day, then
>> you could probably bike to work...
>>
>> let me know what your solar experiences are. I found they take 20+ years to
>> pay for themselves with warranties under 20 years. Are you familiar with the
>> maintenance of solar?
>>
>> And you didn't answer my second question. If we as a population are willing
>> to do it ourselves (which is always better), why do we require our leaders
>> to bully us into doing it ourselves?
>>
>> keep up the good fight!
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Jason Spatafore <>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a car that gets 32+ MPG constantly.
>>>
>>> See attached spreadsheet. :)
>>>
>>> Getting ready to have solar added to my house. 8.6kwH unit so I generate a
>>> surplus.
>>>
>>> Notice how I measure performance on $/mile. That's what really matters. I
>>> was ticked when it hit .10/mile. I want to see $.05/mile.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Eric Cope
>>> To: ; Main PLUG discussion list
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: OT - Have you seen this ad?
>>> Sorry to start the flame war...
>>> Stephen, what are you doing to stop the "addiction"?
>>> Why do we need our "leaders" to do it for us?
>>>
>>> <remaining on soap box for response>
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Link is relevant to my interests but please add an "OT" to the subject
>>>> line next time. :)
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Stephen Wiebelhaus <>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:54:31
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Subject: Have you seen this ad?
>>>>
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