Re: OT: Survelliance in America

FYI: Senate passed the FISA bill,

Kyl(R-AZ) votes YES,

and surprisingly,

McCain(R-AZ) is NOT VOTING.


http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168

-jmz


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 21:57 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>> On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 21:26 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>> > But the big issue for PLUG members, in FISA (and legislation of it's
>> > type) is the new overly expensive required fiscal reporting for EBay
>> > and others for "economic reasons"?
>> >
>> > Co-located Ecommerce will simply be moved out of country in the world
>> > economy of the internet?
>> >
>> > This has the potential to impact our careers in a very big way, does
>> > it not?
>> >
>> > Unless you want to move to a cheaper, less ethically warlike, foreign
>> > country to work?
>> >
>> > Will we all be communicating (via webcam/email) from Canada, Italy,
>> > Spain, India or Indonesia in 3 years?
>> ----
>> perhaps a sleeper issue that escaped me.
>>
>> FISA itself is purported to be a timely and technological update of the
>> original 1978 FISA legislation that was driven by the excesses of the
>> Nixon administration and predecessors including the absurd things done
>> by the CIA and the FBI preceding the legislation.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISA_Amendments_Act_of_2008
>>
>> The government has already provided economic incentives for corporations
>> to move off-shore which many have done but I think you're sort of
>> getting off-track of the FISA legislation itself.
> ----
> I should have included this link because this completely summarizes the
> problems with telecom immunity...
>
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Senator_Dodd_Speaks_in_Opposition_to_FISA_Bill_on_Floor_of_U.S._Senate
>
> Craig
>
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