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Author: Lisa Kachold
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To: Main PLUG discussion list, obnosis
Subject: Re: Server failover
Modern UltraMonkey now is layer 4.

But this looks interesting:

http://ultramonkey-l7.sourceforge.jp/index_en.html

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Lisa Kachold <> wrote:
From: Lisa Kachold <>
Subject: Re: Server failover
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 6:30 PM

WEB Server FARMS, clustering and failover:

Let's use the "OSI Layer" here:

Layer 5-7: If you are running Java in a single tiered model,  there are cluster based options in the Application server side. 

Layer 3.5-4:  Network hardware load balancer is an excellent tool.  These also allow you do some URL rewriting (the best is a CSS switch; cheap Alteons are available for cheap used).  They balance multiple servers for incoming packets and provide failover.

Layer 3: drbd or heartbeat works but not really well.  The server, not
the Apache process will failover, and it not really scalable.

Layer 3: Ultra Monkey no arp clustering.  This is an Alan Cox kernel hack that will allow you to cluster a great number of servers to take a HUGE amounts of hits.  If one quits it is removed from the Director. 
It works well, and is easy to setup.  Ultra Monkey is the name of a product, but the application developed by Alan Cox is a kernel rebuild to route packets based on Mac address rather than IP from and to a Director script/application.  Research it and see if you can engineer your own for you distro, or just buy Ultra Monkey. 

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--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Judd Pickell <> wrote:
From: Judd Pickell <>
Subject: Re: Server failover
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
Cc:
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 3:40 PM

One of the places I worked for used this: http://bb4.com/ however it
maybe too big for your needs, I am not sure.

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Matt Graham <>
wrote:
> From: keith smith <>
>> I am looking for information on how I might be able to mirror one
>> server onto another and set them up so if the main server dies
>> the second server will take over

automatically.
>
> heartbeat and drbd. http://linux-ha.org/ and http://drbd.org/ to
> start.
>
>> The mirroring would require the website content itself and the
>> MySql data.
>
> drbd works below the filesystem level, if you want to use that. You
> really need a dedicated high-speed link between the 2 systems if you
> want to use drbd. Unless you use one of the newer and less well
> tested filesystems such as GFS, if you use drbd, you have to have the
> primary machine mount the filesystem, and the secondary machine can't
> mount the filesystem at all. Scripts allow the secondary machine to
> become primary if/when the primary flails over.
>
>> Now if I had 3 servers would I be able to do this by having them
>> all three working as a "farm" to serve up multiple websites?
>
> Not in the way described above. drbd is very much

a 2-machine system.
> You could have a drbd cluster with large disks acting as the main
> fileserver, and 1..N machines that mount the filesystems on that
> server via NFS. Then machines 1..N could serve content via apache
> or apache combined with ldirectord.
>
>> Is it possible to do this on a small budget?
>
> Define "small". You need boxes, time to set it all up, and

disks.
>
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