Re: Asterisk (geek girl)

Honestly I dont think Kerry has that type of decision in the project as far
as budgeting their salary etc since Fonality baught trixbox out....
Also you need to factor in their MAJOR corperate contributors....
<cough...Intel> <cough>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig White" <craigwhite@azapple.com>
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: Asterisk (geek girl)


> On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 08:25 -0700, JD Austin wrote:
>> Craig White wrote:
>
>> > that was really, really bad. I found that this comment from Kerry
>> > Garrison, Trixbox Community Director to be most disappointing in that
>> > he
>> > found it so easy to justify...
>> >
>> > "This is getting far off the mark here. We are going to fix this so
>> > that
>> > it is easy to opt out of the program. If everyone opts out, we have no
>> > data, if we have no data, then we lose the financial support of our
>> > partners. If we lose the finanicial support of our partners, I lose my
>> > funding, if I lose my funding, I lose my team. If I lose my team we
>> > have
>> > no development on CE."
>> >
>> > This type of thinking flies in the face of the open source community.
>> > If
>> > the corporate partners commitment to open source lies only as far as
>> > they are able to glean information from their users then you have to
>> > figure their commitment isn't very substantial at all.
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
>> For me it was when 'Trixbox Pro' came out that signaled it was time to
>> move on to something else.
>> It was a sign that their vision didn't jibe with my needs; hosting
>> things on their server it just felt wrong.
>> I couldn't see why anyone would want to have a significant chunk of
>> their pbx hosted somewhere on the internet - bad idea!
>> I could see hosting the entire server on the internet as a service but
>> not part of it.
>>
>> I agree with your assessment of Kerry's statements.
>> Kerry was a pretty respected guy in the Asterisk community. Now I'm
>> not so sure.
>> The big problem with TB is that it pretends to be an open source
>> project.
>> Sure the source code is available but few people have the ability to
>> contribute to the project.
>> I hope other companies learn from Fonality's blunders; it really could
>> have been win-win for them.
>>
>> Im optimistic about PBX in a flash so far.
> ----
> There are a LOT of open source projects that are driven by a commercial
> entity and that doesn't necessarily make a project with both a
> commercial version and community version bad...alfresco comes to mind
> here but there are many, many others.
>
> I seem to recall that asterisk itself was development driven by digium.
> I don't necessarily say that all commercially driven open source
> projects are problematic...only that the corporate whim factor seems to
> play a heavy hand.
>
> One of the biggest nightmares of corporate driven open source software
> in my mind is Medsphere...
> http://www.gplmedicine.org/articles_12/
>
> What bothered me was that Kerry seemed to have already co-opted into the
> thinking that the commercial interests were more important than
> independence. He knew it was wrong but justified it anyway.
>
> Craig
>
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