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> 1. Annual FSF Membership Meeting Mar 15 at MIT (Dennis Kibbe)
> 2. Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source
> (alexanderhenry@cox.net)
> 3. Drupal help (Stephen P Rufle)
> 4. Asterisk to FXO or FXS (geekgirl28@cox.net)
> 5. Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source
> (Technomage-hawke)
> 6. Re: Drupal help (Matt Graham)
> 7. OT: "A renewed wish for open document standards" Google slams
> OOXML (again) (Mike Schwartz)
> 8. Re: Asterisk (tjones@fastq.com)
> 9. Re: Asterisk (Geek Girl)
> 10. Re: Asterisk (Geek Girl)
> 11. Re: Asterisk (tjones@fastq.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:20:00 -0700
> From: Dennis Kibbe <dennisk@linuxquestions.net>
> Subject: Annual FSF Membership Meeting Mar 15 at MIT
> To: Dennis Kibbe <dennisk@member.fsf.org>
> Message-ID: <1201116001.3381.27.camel@d810.sahuaro.us>
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> The Annual FSF Associate Membership Meeting will be on Saturday, March
> 15, 2008 from 9:15 AM - 5:50 PM in Cambridge, MA at MIT. More details
> here.
>
> http://www.fsf.org/associate/meetings/2008
>
> There is no charge for the event and if you are not a member you can
> join on the FSF site. Membership is payable in a yearly amount or you
> can pay monthly.
>
> The annual membership meetings are a great opportunity to give your
> voice the campaigns to fight for software freedom in the year ahead.
>
> The meeting is also a good opportunity to discuss issues with many of
> the big names in the movement. RMS will, of course, be there as will
> Eben Moglen. B. Mako Smith is the newest member of the board.
>
> The meeting usually start with a key signing party and there are
> opportunities throughout the day to do a little social networking.
>
> Dennisk
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:36:57 -0700
> From: <alexanderhenry@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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>
> Shirley, you're joking.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:08:06 -0700
> From: Stephen P Rufle <stephen.p.rufle@cox.net>
> Subject: Drupal help
> To: PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Message-ID: <47C87436.4000206@cox.net>
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>
> Anyone on the list have mad Drupal skills :)
>
> I am creating an online commerce site and would like to use Drupal to
> put the site together. First are there good books to read, or are most
> of the books just rehashes of what is available online. Second if
> someone has mad skill, would that person be willing to tutor me for an
> exchange of dinner at some later date.
>
> My current list of possible issues.
>
> * theming - I know enough how to install new ones , but what do I do if
> I like most of a theme but need something specific ( does it require a
> little or a lot of PHP experience)
> * product catalog / shopping cart - I currently only have a single
> product but hope to add more, is there a known leader in product catalog
> and/or shopping carts
> * general gotchas - what should I be aware of as I start ( any advice on
> security, how to admin Drupal so the finished site is structured
> logically anything like that)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:12:42 -0500
> From: <geekgirl28@cox.net>
> Subject: Asterisk to FXO or FXS
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>,
> stephen.p.rufle@cox.net
> Message-ID: <20080229161242.1L3C3.2983.imail@fed1rmwml35>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> If you have a phone line coming in you will need an FXO card. It is good to
> remember that FXS provides the voltage, and FXO receives the voltage. Rhino
> cards are a great and dependable solution for this!
>
> ;)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:38:14 -0700
> From: Technomage-hawke <technomage.hawke@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <200802291438.14728.technomage.hawke@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Friday 29 February 2008, alexanderhenry@cox.net wrote:
> > Shirley, you're joking.
> >
>
> "no I'm not joking and quit calling me Shirley!"
>
> HAHAHA
>
> airplane! what a funny movie!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:03:21 -0700
> From: "Matt Graham" <danceswithcrows@usa.net>
> Subject: Re: Drupal help
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <941mBCwcV9994S03.1204322601@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> From: Stephen P Rufle <stephen.p.rufle@cox.net>
> > I am creating an online commerce site and would like to use Drupal.
>
> > * theming - I know enough how to install new ones , but what do I do if
> > I like most of a theme but need something specific ( does it require a
> > little or a lot of PHP experience)
>
> drupal themes, like wordpress themes, have both PHP and CSS components.
> If these things are like wordpress themes, the actual HTML that gets
> generated depends on both the PHP and the CSS. What's more, the theme
> logic can be in either one unless they've standardized the drupal themes
> more than they've standardized the wordpress themes.
>
> The good news is that modifying the PHP bits won't require a lot of PHP
> experience. Lots of the theme bits are in the HTML parts of the PHP,
> so you just change the <div class="foo"> to <div class="bar"> in the
> right spot(s). And the other bits are in relatively simple <?php
> print "stuff junk things" ?> sections of code.
>
> You'll have to learn some CSS. It's not that difficult, there's just a
> lot of keywords to remember. And building a layout that doesn't look
> like something the dog dragged in requires practice.
>
> > * product catalog / shopping cart - I currently only have a single
> > product but hope to add more, is there a known leader in product catalog
> > and/or shopping carts
> > * general gotchas - what should I be aware of as I start ( any advice on
> > security, how to admin Drupal so the finished site is structured
> > logically anything like that)
>
> Good questions. It might be worthwhile to check freshmeat.net for keywords
> "shopping cart" and "drupal" and see what you can find.
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows
> The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/
> There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:01 -0700
> From: "Mike Schwartz" <schwartz@acm.org>
> Subject: OT: "A renewed wish for open document standards" Google slams
> OOXML (again)
> To: "PLUG-discuss mailing list"
> <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Cc: Mike L Schwartz <schwartz@acm.org>
> Message-ID:
> <88a13c810802291550k5bb114baqcfcf149d56fb2c80@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> and they explain ** so eloquently **, [once again] why it would be bad:
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/renewed-wish-for-open-document.html
> --
> Mike Schwartz
> Glendale AZ
> schwartz@acm.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:30:21 -0700
> From: tjones@fastq.com
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <1204331421.47c8a39d24888@webmail.fastq.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> FXO
>
> I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it
> interoperates
> with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I
> have
> trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap
> hardware,
> so it's not all that surprising.
>
> Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" <jon@the-hansons-az.net>:
>
> >
> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote:
> >
> > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so:
> > >
> > > moin moin,
> > >
> > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you
> > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro?
> > >
> > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones
> > > that
> > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school
> > > bell
> > > for at least one of the campuses.
> > >
> > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on
> > > being
> > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. They'll
> > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting an
> > > Asterisk users group.
> > >
> > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to
> > > PLUG, but I
> > > might be somewhat biased ;-).
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > > --
> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/
> > > <moose> Roses are #FF0000,
> > > <moose> Violets are #0000FF,
> > > <moose> All my base,
> > > <moose> Are belong to
> > > you.---------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime
> > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone
> > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make that
> > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it
> > to connect to Qwest?
> >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:38:40 -0700
> From: "Geek Girl" <geekgirl28@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
> <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <000601c87b34$9885cac0$0301a8c0@supportlaptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Have you tried bumping up your rxgain a bit in /etc/zapata.conf abit...just
> by a few digits...
> This helps in some cases...Depending on what card you
> have you can monitor zttool and see if zaptel is letting go of the line or
> if it is asterisk hanging on to the line.
> Then at least you would have some more insight on the situation and be able
> to debug it better...
>
> Just some helpful tips... =-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tjones@fastq.com>
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
>
>
> FXO
>
> I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it
> interoperates
> with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I
> have
> trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap
> hardware,
> so it's not all that surprising.
>
> Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" <jon@the-hansons-az.net>:
>
> >
> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote:
> >
> > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so:
> > >
> > > moin moin,
> > >
> > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you
> > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro?
> > >
> > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones
> > > that
> > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school
> > > bell
> > > for at least one of the campuses.
> > >
> > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on
> > > being
> > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. They'll
> > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting an
> > > Asterisk users group.
> > >
> > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to
> > > PLUG, but I
> > > might be somewhat biased ;-).
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > > --
> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/
> > > <moose> Roses are #FF0000,
> > > <moose> Violets are #0000FF,
> > > <moose> All my base,
> > > <moose> Are belong to
> > > you.---------------------------------------------------
> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime
> > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone
> > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make that
> > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it
> > to connect to Qwest?
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
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>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:47:47 -0700
> From: "Geek Girl" <geekgirl28@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
> <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <002201c87b35$e03015f0$0301a8c0@supportlaptop>
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>
> correction...
>
> /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
>
> sorry about that...its been a loooong day lol
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geek Girl" <geekgirl28@cox.net>
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
>
>
> Have you tried bumping up your rxgain a bit in /etc/zapata.conf abit...just
> by a few digits...
> This helps in some cases...Depending on what card you
> have you can monitor zttool and see if zaptel is letting go of the line or
> if it is asterisk hanging on to the line.
> Then at least you would have some more insight on the situation and be able
> to debug it better...
>
> Just some helpful tips... =-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tjones@fastq.com>
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
>
>
> FXO
>
> I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it
> interoperates
> with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I
> have
> trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap
> hardware,
> so it's not all that surprising.
>
> Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" <jon@the-hansons-az.net>:
>
> >
> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote:
> >
> > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so:
> > >
> > > moin moin,
> > >
> > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you
> > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro?
> > >
> > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones
> > > that
> > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school
> > > bell
> > > for at least one of the campuses.
> > >
> > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on
> > > being
> > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. They'll
> > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting an
> > > Asterisk users group.
> > >
> > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to
> > > PLUG, but I
> > > might be somewhat biased ;-).
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > > --
> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/
> > > <moose> Roses are #FF0000,
> > > <moose> Violets are #0000FF,
> > > <moose> All my base,
> > > <moose> Are belong to
> > > you.---------------------------------------------------
> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime
> > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone
> > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make that
> > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it
> > to connect to Qwest?
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:22:31 -0700
> From: tjones@fastq.com
> Subject: Re: Asterisk
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <1204334551.47c8afd78a651@webmail.fastq.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Thanks for the tip. Next time I've got the box up I'll give it a try.
> Certainly can't make it any worse.
>
> Quoting Geek Girl <geekgirl28@cox.net>:
>
> > correction...
> >
> > /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
> >
> > sorry about that...its been a loooong day lol
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Geek Girl" <geekgirl28@cox.net>
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Asterisk
> >
> >
> > Have you tried bumping up your rxgain a bit in /etc/zapata.conf
> abit...just
> > by a few digits...
> > This helps in some cases...Depending on what card you
> > have you can monitor zttool and see if zaptel is letting go of the line
> or
> > if it is asterisk hanging on to the line.
> > Then at least you would have some more insight on the situation and be
> able
> > to debug it better...
> >
> > Just some helpful tips... =-)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <tjones@fastq.com>
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Asterisk
> >
> >
> > FXO
> >
> > I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it
> > interoperates
> > with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I
> > have
> > trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap
> > hardware,
> > so it's not all that surprising.
> >
> > Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" <jon@the-hansons-az.net>:
> >
> > >
> > > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so:
> > > >
> > > > moin moin,
> > > >
> > > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you
> > > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro?
> > > >
> > > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones
> > > > that
> > > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school
> > > > bell
> > > > for at least one of the campuses.
> > > >
> > > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on
> > > > being
> > > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. They'll
> > > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting an
> > > > Asterisk users group.
> > > >
> > > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to
> > > > PLUG, but I
> > > > might be somewhat biased ;-).
> > > >
> > > > ciao,
> > > >
> > > > der.hans
> > > > --
> > > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/
> > > > <moose> Roses are #FF0000,
> > > > <moose> Violets are #0000FF,
> > > > <moose> All my base,
> > > > <moose> Are belong to
> > > > you.---------------------------------------------------
> > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> > >
> > > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime
> > > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:50:56 -0700
> From: Mark Phillips <mark@phillipsmarketing.biz>
> Subject: Need Email Setup Advice
> To: PLUG <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <1204393856.4657.75.camel@narwhale>
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>
> I want to try using the Funambol server with my blackberry. Funambol is
> a push email/pim Open Source replacement for the proprietary Blackberry
> Information Server.
>
> Funambol needs to talk to an IMAP email server to synchronize the inbox
> and other folders. However, my cox account only offers POP3. I have been
> trying to find the glue to get email from cox to Funambol. Cox blocks
> port 25, so I cannot just use my own mail server with my domains.
>
> I have been googling around and think I have one possible solution, but
> I am not sure it is the simplest.
>
> 1. zoneedit to send email from mydomain.com to my cox account
> 2. Getmail to download mail from cox.
> 3. Postfix & dovecot & amavirus to store email and make it available to
> funambol
>
> #3 comes from this article -
> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ and it was very easy to set
> up.
>
> Is this setup overkill for my application? Should I look at other ways
> to meet my objectives?
>
> Two other wrinkles - I have 2 domains, and each user gets & send email
> on the two domains (total of 5 users). I am running Debian etch.
>
> Thanks for any advice you have on ways to simplify this setup.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:44:39 +0000
> From: Frank Mandato <fgm1147@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a couple of minor glitches with this distro and would appreciate
> any help and advice on how to solve them.
>
> First my system. MB is a Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It
> is a 64 bit system running on an X86 platform with plenty of ram and a
> NVidia GEForce6800GS video card.
>
> Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works. I have to drag
> and click on my desktop to see where my mouse pointer should be. I edited
> the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW pointer and then turn on the SW
> pointer, and the other way around, just to make sure, no success. The
> pointer works perfectly well during the install, no problem there. The mouse
> is a MS Optical USB mouse and that is what Sax2 sees and writes in to the
> config file.
>
> Problem No.2: I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than
> that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from Nvidia via yast
> at the command line and add the nvidia url to the community repositories, no
> success. I would like to be able to get everything I can out of my video
> card, but I can also live with the resolution that I currently have.
>
> Problem No. 3: No sound. I have on board sound hardware and the legacy
> alsa driver does not produce any sound. I had alwas had trouble with alsa,
> never able to configure any sound card properly, a real weak point for me.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help or directions where I can go to look things
> up.
>
> I apologize in case this email comes across in HTML and not just text, I
> will have that working by sometime next week.
>
> FrankM
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:09:08 -0700
> From: "Matt Graham" <danceswithcrows@usa.net>
> Subject: Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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>
> From: Frank Mandato <fgm1147@hotmail.com>
> > I have a couple of minor glitches with [Suse Linux 10.3]
>
> The quality of SuSE took a sharp nosedive around version 8.0,
> so much so that I switched to Gentoo. AFAICT, there have
> always been many, many stupid bugs in SuSE that are just not
> there on Debian-based things or Gentoo.
>
> > Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It is a 64
> > bit system running on an X86 platform
>
> Are you running this thing as x86_64, or x86? This could be
> important, and it's not clear from what you wrote.
>
> > NVidia GEForce6800GS video card.
> > Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works.
> > I edited the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW [cursor] and
> > then turn on the SW [cursor], no success.
>
> Install the evil binary-only module from nVidia and use it.
>
> > I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than
> > that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from
> > Nvidia via yast at the command line
>
> Is X using the evil nVidia module? "grep Driver
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should return one line with "nvidia" in
> it. You also need to have the evil kernel module loaded.
> "lsmod | grep nv" should return at least one line with
> "nvidia" in it.
>
> > No sound. The legacy alsa driver does not produce any sound.
> > I had always had trouble with alsa
>
> ALSA is "legacy"? Good grief. Post the output of "lspci |
> grep -i audio" so we can see what sound chip you have. What's
> worked for me is just running alsaconf as root from the command
> line, but then I'm not using SuSE. Also, ALSA always starts
> all sound cards up as muted. Most distros have a script that
> runs at boot that pulls the volumes that were set at the last
> shutdown and sets the card to those volumes.
>
> Also also, check the plugs. The last motherboard I bought, I
> plugged the speakers into the wrong jack, and wasted half an
> hour wondering what my ALSA setup had barfed on.
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows
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>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:42:02 -0700
> From: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
> Subject: Re: Need Email Setup Advice
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <1204396922.21462.31.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 10:50 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > I want to try using the Funambol server with my blackberry. Funambol is
> > a push email/pim Open Source replacement for the proprietary Blackberry
> > Information Server.
> >
> > Funambol needs to talk to an IMAP email server to synchronize the inbox
> > and other folders. However, my cox account only offers POP3. I have been
> > trying to find the glue to get email from cox to Funambol. Cox blocks
> > port 25, so I cannot just use my own mail server with my domains.
> >
> > I have been googling around and think I have one possible solution, but
> > I am not sure it is the simplest.
> >
> > 1. zoneedit to send email from mydomain.com to my cox account
> > 2. Getmail to download mail from cox.
> > 3. Postfix & dovecot & amavirus to store email and make it available to
> > funambol
> >
> > #3 comes from this article -
> > http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ and it was very easy to set
> > up.
> >
> > Is this setup overkill for my application? Should I look at other ways
> > to meet my objectives?
> >
> > Two other wrinkles - I have 2 domains, and each user gets & send email
> > on the two domains (total of 5 users). I am running Debian etch.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice you have on ways to simplify this setup.
> ----
> 1. You can use 'smarthost' settings on postfix or sendmail to relay
> outbound mail through their smtp server. That is the simplest thing to
> do.
>
> 2. I have never used 'getmail' but I do use 'fetchmail' which retrieves
> e-mail using various protocols (pop3 is one of them) which then feeds
> the mail through my setup of MailScanner/postfix/cyrus-imapd.
> MailScanner is like amavisd-new...a wrapper that checks incoming mail
> and sends it through clamav, spamassassin before delivery.
>
> 3. Dovecot is fine as an imap server (I prefer cyrus-imapd but dovecot
> is simpler).
>
> 4. You are likely going to have to set up a local DNS to handle e-mail -
> I don't see much value in using something like zoneedit unless you
> expect offsite connections and Cox blocks ports 25 & 80 on
> DHCP/residential accounts anyway.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:07:17 +0000
> From: Frank Mandato <fgm1147@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Message-ID: <BLU110-W2129D480CDBDDF37EDC9DBA0150@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Matt,
>
> Thank you very much for your superfast answer.
>
> Unfortunately, I am not good enough to install Gentoo, tried it a few
> years ago and I never could get it to work right, not their fault, my not
> knowing enough about Linux was at fault.
>
> I have installed this system and I am running it as an X86_64, sorry I
> wan't clear on that.
>
> Here is what I get when I "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> **********************
> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> Driver "kbd"
> Driver "mouse"
> Driver "nv"
> ***********************
>
> "lsmod | grep nv" did not return anything at all.
>
> Here is the output from "lspci | grep -i audio"
>
> 03:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
>
> When I go in to Yast to configure that sound card, it days say "legacy" so
> I thought that this is a legacy sound card.
>
> Hope this helps. I did forget to mention that I have re-installed 10.3 and
> that is why I do not have the downloaded Nvidia driver on it any longer.
>
> Thanks Matt.
>
> FrankM
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:09:08 -0700
> > From: danceswithcrows@usa.net
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested
> >
> > From: Frank Mandato
> >> I have a couple of minor glitches with [Suse Linux 10.3]
> >
> > The quality of SuSE took a sharp nosedive around version 8.0,
> > so much so that I switched to Gentoo. AFAICT, there have
> > always been many, many stupid bugs in SuSE that are just not
> > there on Debian-based things or Gentoo.
> >
> >> Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It is a 64
> >> bit system running on an X86 platform
> >
> > Are you running this thing as x86_64, or x86? This could be
> > important, and it's not clear from what you wrote.
> >
> >> NVidia GEForce6800GS video card.
> >> Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works.
> >> I edited the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW [cursor] and
> >> then turn on the SW [cursor], no success.
> >
> > Install the evil binary-only module from nVidia and use it.
> >
> >> I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than
> >> that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from
> >> Nvidia via yast at the command line
> >
> > Is X using the evil nVidia module? "grep Driver
> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should return one line with "nvidia" in
> > it. You also need to have the evil kernel module loaded.
> > "lsmod | grep nv" should return at least one line with
> > "nvidia" in it.
> >
> >> No sound. The legacy alsa driver does not produce any sound.
> >> I had always had trouble with alsa
> >
> > ALSA is "legacy"? Good grief. Post the output of "lspci |
> > grep -i audio" so we can see what sound chip you have. What's
> > worked for me is just running alsaconf as root from the command
> > line, but then I'm not using SuSE. Also, ALSA always starts
> > all sound cards up as muted. Most distros have a script that
> > runs at boot that pulls the volumes that were set at the last
> > shutdown and sets the card to those volumes.
> >
> > Also also, check the plugs. The last motherboard I bought, I
> > plugged the speakers into the wrong jack, and wasted half an
> > hour wondering what my ALSA setup had barfed on.
> >
> > --
> > Matt G / Dances With Crows
> > The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/
> > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> >
> >
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:27:46 -0700
> From: "Matt Graham" <danceswithcrows@usa.net>
> Subject: RE: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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>
> From: Frank Mandato <fgm1147@hotmail.com>
> > Unfortunately, I am not good enough to install Gentoo, tried it
> > a few years ago and I never could get it to work right, not their
> > fault, my not knowing enough about Linux was at fault.
>
> Things have improved a little bit. It should be "Read the Gentoo
> Handbook, follow steps 1..100, done!" but manually creating
> partitions and filesystems may faze people. But there's always
> Ubuntu and kUbuntu.
>
> > I have installed this system and I am running it as an X86_64,
>
> OK, this actually shouldn't cause any problems with the things that
> you reported. The evil nvidia module worked fine with x86_64 when
> I was running that.
>
> > Driver "nv"
> > I have re-installed 10.3 and that is why I do not have the
> > downloaded Nvidia driver on it any longer.
>
> In general, reinstalling a distro won't fix anything. There are a
> few exceptions, but I don't think the problems you described fall
> into those categories. So: Get the binary module again and
> install it, then modprobe nvidia, then edit xorg.conf, then
> restart X and see if it all works. You may have to do the SuSE
> equivalent of "eselect opengl set nvidia" so that you can get
> accelerated 3D junk working.
>
> > 03:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
> >
> > When I go in to Yast to configure that sound card, it says "legacy"
> > so I thought that this is a legacy sound card.
>
> "Audigy LS" is not mentioned in the source for emu10k1 in a 2.6.24.1
> kernel. YaST has always had problems. What might work is this:
> "modprobe snd_emu10k1", then start alsamixer (or amixer) and see if
> you get anything other than "mixer not found, barfing." If you
> get a mixer, you should just have to unmute everything. If not,
> it's time to look in dmesg for problems. The worst-case scenario is
> that the card isn't supported by whatever kernel they shipped, and
> you'll have to upgrade to a more recent kernel.
>
> HTH anyway,
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows
> The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/
> There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>
>
> >
> > Thanks Matt.
> >
> > FrankM
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:09:08 -0700
> > > From: danceswithcrows@usa.net
> > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > Subject: Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested
> > >
> > > From: Frank Mandato
> > >> I have a couple of minor glitches with [Suse Linux 10.3]
> > >
> > > The quality of SuSE took a sharp nosedive around version 8.0,
> > > so much so that I switched to Gentoo. AFAICT, there have
> > > always been many, many stupid bugs in SuSE that are just not
> > > there on Debian-based things or Gentoo.
> > >
> > >> Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It is a 64
> > >> bit system running on an X86 platform
> > >
> > > Are you running this thing as x86_64, or x86? This could be
> > > important, and it's not clear from what you wrote.
> > >
> > >> NVidia GEForce6800GS video card.
> > >> Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works.
> > >> I edited the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW [cursor] and
> > >> then turn on the SW [cursor], no success.
> > >
> > > Install the evil binary-only module from nVidia and use it.
> > >
> > >> I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than
> > >> that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from
> > >> Nvidia via yast at the command line
> > >
> > > Is X using the evil nVidia module? "grep Driver
> > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should return one line with "nvidia" in
> > > it. You also need to have the evil kernel module loaded.
> > > "lsmod | grep nv" should return at least one line with
> > > "nvidia" in it.
> > >
> > >> No sound. The legacy alsa driver does not produce any sound.
> > >> I had always had trouble with alsa
> > >
> > > ALSA is "legacy"? Good grief. Post the output of "lspci |
> > > grep -i audio" so we can see what sound chip you have. What's
> > > worked for me is just running alsaconf as root from the command
> > > line, but then I'm not using SuSE. Also, ALSA always starts
> > > all sound cards up as muted. Most distros have a script that
> > > runs at boot that pulls the volumes that were set at the last
> > > shutdown and sets the card to those volumes.
> > >
> > > Also also, check the plugs. The last motherboard I bought, I
> > > plugged the speakers into the wrong jack, and wasted half an
> > > hour wondering what my ALSA setup had barfed on.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matt G / Dances With Crows
> > > The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/
> > > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> > >
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