Re: IPTables Intermittent Stopping

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Author: Joshua Zeidner
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Subject: Re: IPTables Intermittent Stopping
On 1/7/08, Jay <> wrote:
>
> I have dozens of servers, all of them running the most recent Debian
> stable branch and pretty basic iptables instances. All are working well
> except for two of them... On these two problem servers, iptables seems to
> be intermittently stopping and starting. There is nothing in the system
> logs to indicate such, but I can see it when port scanning the servers.
>
> The servers' iptables rules are set to allow connections on TCP 25, 53,
> 80, and 443, then block everything else. When doing a simple nmap scan of
> the servers, and everything is working, the scan takes a few minutes, it
> shows these four ports open, and everything else **filtered**. When
> everything is not working, the nmap scan happens in just a couple of
> seconds, it shows another open port (TCP/111 - I do have this service
> running on the servers), plus the four expected open ports, and everything
> else **closed**.
>
> I can do 10 nmap scans back-to-back, and about half of them will show
> ports filtered, while the other half will show ports closed (and the extra
> open port). This tells me that iptables on these two servers is
> intermittently stopping, then intermittently starting again.


That is not really a safe assumption. Nmap is not really that
accurate of an instrument. If you are concerned for some other
reason, I would try logging your packets with iptables an see if you
get anything interesting. If your network is not exhibiting any
problems, then I wouldn't assume that you have one just because Nmap
is giving a wierd readout. You can also try other monitoring tools
like SATAN and SAINT and see if they give you similar results.
http://www-arc.com/sara/

-jmz


>
> I have watched the logs on the servers - nothing unusual. I have done the
> nmap scans from three different source locations, and all exhibit the same
> intermittent results. Googling for 'iptables intermittent' is not turning
> up anything applicable. I have other servers using the same iptables
> scripts, and they are not exhibiting this problem, plus bad iptables rules
> should make the problem always happen, not be randomly intermittent.
>
> Anybody have any ideas? Seen anything like this before?
>
> --
> ~Jay
>
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