Re: The PLUG website is dead. Long live the PLUG website!

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Author: der.hans
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Subject: Re: The PLUG website is dead. Long live the PLUG website!
Am 06. Jun, 2007 schw?tzte Josef Lowder so:

> .
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:45, Alan Dayley wrote
>> Nathan Aubrey wrote:
>>> Why are there always problems with the plug web site? It seems every
>>> couple of months the site goes down or gets hacked or the ISP dies.
>>
>> Point well taken.
>>
>> In the past is has been a combination of insecurity (not all me) and
>> incompetent, amateurish webmastering (me).
>>
>> The new situation we are now going into is much better. We are on
>> modern hardware with our own Xen based VPS. That gives us more control
>> of our own destiny and security.
>>
>> As for the amateur webmaster, once the new site is established, we will
>> push for competent assistance so I don't make the same mistakes as
>> before. We already have a co-admin for the CMS and additional
>> experienced help will limit such issues. My goal is to get it
>> founded and then form a team of you who know better to do, or at
>> least direct, what needs and should be done.
>
> Methinks we are terribly remiss in failing to appreciate and express
> appreciation to you for all that you do for PLUG and for all of us,
> including in your work in attending to the PLUG website.


Thanks for saying thanks. Speaking of thanks, thank you for the brochure
that you've put together. We need to get after that again.

Brian proposed to me a few minutes ago that he cover a different style of
bruchure at next week's meeting. We need to follow up with both and start
getting them put out.

> There is no reason or need for you to apologize, Alan.
>
> The only apologies that are needed are for any and all complaints
> and/or criticisms of either the web hosting (which is donated)
> and/or your generous giving of your time in serving as PLUG webmaster.


Valid complaints and criticisms are welcome. We need to know if
something's broken. Complaints and criticisms are bug reports. We still
have limited resources, so don't expect something to get fixed just
because you pointed it out. On the other hand, we generally won't fix
things if we don't know they're broken.

PLUG only get things done because someone volunteers and puts in the time
to get something done. At the same time, some of our services need to be
reliable. I'm not laying blame ( I would have to start with me as I've
caused multiple outages ), but as a group we need to make sure the mailing
lists and web site are well maintained.

Not keeping those two in good shape interferes with attracting new members
and makes GNU/Linux and Free Software look bad.

Those of us who've been maintaining the services need to do a better job
of providing opportunities for others to help.

We also need people to follow up and help when they are given the
opportunity. Joomla! allowed multiple people to maintain the site.
Unfortunately we didn't get much consistent assistance. Consistent isn't
every day. A little bit of effort every couple weeks can go a long way.

ciao,

der.hans
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