Speaking of spam....
Since I switched to Thunderbird (1.5.0.7) I've been using the "junk"
filter. It only took about a week to get it trained. Now it's putting
about 95% of the spam in the "junk" folder. It's only mis-identified
legitimate emails as junk twice so far.
I haven't been nearly so lucky with my webmail. I switched over much of
my business correspondence to my webmail account with Deru (I use the
"Horde" interface), which gets any and all messages addressed to
nakota-software.com. I know I get a lot more spam on that because there
are bots out there harvesting my URL. I've been blacklisting every
piece of spam I've received for a couple of weeks but I don't think I'm
getting any repeats. I suppose I should figure out how to have it
reject everything that's not on my whitelist, but that seems like a hassle.
Or I guess I could just set it to forward everything to a POP account,
and let Thunderbird take care of it.
Vaughn
Darrin Chandler wrote:
> Kurt Granroth wrote:
>> Darrin Chandler wrote:
>>> I've seen a couple of those come through lately, but not too many. Are
>>> you greylisting?
>> No, I am not. I'm too lazy to manage the upkeep of it. I would always
>> prefer to do a lot of work up front and nothing afterwards than a steady
>> bit of little work. My problem with greylisting is that it doesn't work
>> for the business notification type emails without some work.
>>
>> For instance, say I order from XYZ store for the first time and want to
>> get my receipt emailed to me. I would have to modify my greylisting
>> setup to allow that email since there is no way that their automated
>> system will do the proper reply to get past it. This would have to be
>> done for every business that I'm a customer to. Not a lot of work...
>> but a little bit for a long time.
>
> That should only be a problem for two circumstances that I can think of:
> (1) You want the reply NOW, not in a little while, or (2) Their mail
> system is horribly broken and won't retry properly.
>
> Doing greylisting myself, I have seen both. It's never been nearly
> enough of a problem to make me give it up. For me, situation (1) means
> doing a little bit of work once in a great while. I don't often need the
> reply RIGHT NOW. YMMV.
>
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