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Author: Alan Gore
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Subject: RE: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 15, Issue 88
I use one of those Shaun Jackson "backpackable lap office" bags for my
ThinkPad. It carries everything I might need for any trip, can be carried
either with handle or as a backpack, and unfolds on your lap so you can work
with the machine still in the bag.

If I want to bring just the laptop on a trip where weight/bulk is a major
consideration, I use one of those orange padded laptop sleeves from REI.
There are three sizes, the one you need of which will be out of stock.

Alan

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: can't vnc a windows box (Michael Sammartano)
2. Re: OT: backpacks (Dennis Kibbe)
3. Re: OT: backpacks (AZ Pete)
4. Re: OT: backpacks (Alan Dayley)
5. Re: Wifi on SuSE 10.1 (Dennis Kibbe)
6. Re: Enterprise Linux (Kurt Granroth)
7. Re: OT: backpacks (Alex Dean)
8. Re: Laptop Wifi recommendation (cardbus) (JT Moree)
9. Re: Mail server recommendations? (Eric "Shubes")


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:38:27 -0700
From: Michael Sammartano <>
Subject: Re: can't vnc a windows box
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More info needed. What distro, what vnc client, Linux firewall allowing vnc
on ports 5800 and 5900, etc, etc...


---- Josh Coffman <> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently reinstalled fc5 on my laptop and i
> noticed I can't vnc my windows box. I think I ran into
> this before and it came down to selinux, but I don't
> remember for sure.
>
> I booted windows on the laptop (dual boots) and
> tried and I can vnc under win. So i know its not my
> network of the windows firewall on the target box.
>
> Can anyone point me to where I should look to
> identify the problem. Or even a possible solution.
>
> Thanks
> -josh
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:53:52 -0700
From: Dennis Kibbe <>
Subject: Re: OT: backpacks
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On Wednesday 20 September 2006 15:05, eric wrote:
> What are people using for laptop backpacks these days and liking? I've
> been thru several generic bags, and most recently an Icon I picked up at
> Micro Center, none of which I've been happy with due to durability or
> storage issues.
><SNIP>
> _eric

Eric,

Check out www.ebags.com. They carry name brands and their own ebags brand.

I've been very happy with the ebags backpack I bought. I carry it daily on
the bus with a 15.4" Dell and find its design perfect.

Their service is great too. I wore out a zipper by tugging on it too hard
every time I reached for my bus pass and they replaced the backpack at no
charge in 3 days!

Dennisk


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:54:36 -0700
From: AZ Pete <>
Subject: Re: OT: backpacks
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I've used a Targus backpack for several years now and have been very
happy with it. It's my IT "survival" pack. I can carry my laptop,
accessories, CDs, extra network cables, various adapters, a few
books, etc. and be prepared wherever I go. I've been through
countless airports (even international) and the bag has yet to see
any significant wear. The only thing I didn't like was the padding
along the bottom was a bit thin and I felt that if I placed the pack
down too hard, the laptop would take a big jolt. But, I simply cut
some foam and placed it in the bottom and haven't had a problem.
I think Targus has very well made laptop backpacks and recommend them.
Unfortunately, they don't make my style anymore. The closest they
have is this one:
http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=TCG650

Where this one has 3 main compartments + 1 small, mine has 2 main + 1
small. Otherwise they're very similar.

Hope this helps.
Peter


At 9/20/2006 09:54 PM, you wrote:
>>What are people using for laptop backpacks these days and
>>liking? I've been thru several generic bags, and most recently an
>>Icon I picked up at Micro Center, none of which I've been happy
>>with due to durability or storage issues.
>
>Mine is a generic no name obtained second hand from Intel. Wish I
>could tell you what it was as it has been very good for me. Main
>pouch for the laptop. Secondary pouch held two notebooks and at
>least 2 text books. Two tertiary pouches (each have the height of
>the main pouches) for the laptop PS in one, calculator, pens, PDA,
>etc... in the other. Mouse in a side pouch (also for a drink) and
>then spare stuff in the pocket on the flipdown cover that goes over
>the two tertiary pouches.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:01:35 -0700
From: Alan Dayley <>
Subject: Re: OT: backpacks
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eric wrote:
> What are people using for laptop backpacks these days and liking? I?ve
> been thru several generic bags, and most recently an Icon I picked up at
> Micro Center, none of which I?ve been happy with due to durability or
> storage issues.
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> Currently, I?m looking at the Wenger Swiss Maxxum bags. Only one I?ve
> found locally that has proper sized pockets for the Jornada.

I am very happy with my "Vertical Computer Brief" from REI, of all
places. I cannot find my model listed but they have many to choose from
in that category:

http://www.rei.com/category/9004522.htm?cm_re=toc*7*ComputerBags&vcat=REI_SS
HP__TOC

There were several in stock at the Tempe store that I liked before
settling on one. They have sleeves and other computer transport
accessories.

Alan



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:05:03 -0700
From: Dennis Kibbe <>
Subject: Re: Wifi on SuSE 10.1
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On Wednesday 20 September 2006 14:27, Carl Parrish wrote:
> Okay I just installed SuSE 10.1 on a friends Gateway laptop. Everything
> more or less went smooth except I can't get his wireless card working.
> This is a dual boot laptop on the MS side everything is okay and when I
> use an ethernet cable everything is all right but when I try going
> wireless its dead. YaST says its a Gateway 2000 88E8038 PCI-E Fast
> Ethernet Controller. I don't know if he has a seperate wireless
> controller or not. but like I said it works in MS and this is all that
> YaST sees. Any ideas?

I think the BroadCom chipset still requires ndiswrapper. You can install
that
through YAST.

The ndiswrapper site is here -
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation

You can setup wireless through YAST once ndiswrapper is installed and manage

wireless with knetworkmanager.

You could replace the BroadCom miniPCI wifi card with an Intel 2200b/g which

is well supported and works out of the box with SUSE, Ubuntu and KNOPPIX.

I've bought the Intel cards on eBay for about $18.00 new.

Dennisk


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 06:25:53 -0700
From: Kurt Granroth <>
Subject: Re: Enterprise Linux
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In the case of Linux distros, "Enterprise" tends to mean "will support it
for
a long time". CentOS is "Enterprise" but doesn't *necessarily* provide any
sort of in-person support. What they do commit to, though, is that they
will
send out security patches and updates for those packages for quite some
years
(seven?).

In contrast, the Desktop Linux distros may have security updates only for a
year or two. This clearly won't work if you plan on running the same distro

on scores of machines for over five years.

On Wednesday 20 September 2006 16:35, Dan Lund wrote:
> Personally I think the term "Enterprise" needs to be defined. In my
> current job it's thrown around almost like it's a status symbol.
>
> I've seen Enterprise business go 2 distinct ways:
> 1) Bring the manpower in to do it
> 2) Go with a company that offers 8x5 (or 24x7) instant support.
>
> Both ways have their merits. Number 2 is what RH provides.
> I prefer Debian or CentOS for things that aren't high-profile. (i.e.
> not audited/seen by management or above)
>
> --Dan
>
> On 9/20/06, Darrin Chandler <> wrote:
> > By Enterprise I assume you mean servers for business. I like OpenBSD,
> > for many of the same reasons that many Linux people doing business
> > servers use Debian.


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:09:35 -0700
From: Alex Dean <>
Subject: Re: OT: backpacks
To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
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On Wednesday 20 September 2006 15:05, eric wrote:
> What are people using for laptop backpacks these days and liking?
> I've
> been thru several generic bags, and most recently an Icon I picked
> up at
> Micro Center, none of which I've been happy with due to durability or
> storage issues.
> <SNIP>
> _eric

I knew a lady who used a diaper bag for her laptop. It sounds funny,
but computer bags and diaper bags often have similar layouts. And,
there aren't many thieves who will snatch bags full of Huggies and
formula. :)

alex
.





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:37:08 -0700
From: JT Moree <>
Subject: Re: Laptop Wifi recommendation (cardbus)
To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
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Eric Richardson wrote:
> Boy o Boy,
> This is much harder than I thought.
> I picked up a Belkin F5D7010 ver.6000 and it has a RaLink RT2561/RT61
> 802.11 PCI. This could take the rt61 driver legacy or the rt2x00. I'm
> using Debian Testing etchand the kernel is 2.6.16 but to build the
> rt2x00 it takes 2.6.17 which is suppose to be the target default kernel
> for testing but it is not there as an image. I build the rt2500 code and
> the module loads and the card shows up as sit0.
> sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
>           inet6 addr: ::10.0.0.3/96 Scope:Compat
>           inet6 addr: ::127.0.0.1/96 Scope:Unknown
>           UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

that's ipv6. note the inet6 addr in the settings. What do you get if
you run
ifconfig -a

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JT MorC)e
PC Xperience, Inc.

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:41:20 -0700
From: "Eric \"Shubes\"" <>
Subject: Re: Mail server recommendations?
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I whole heartedly agree. To look at the source and patches and all, it's
pretty ugly. I'd sure hate to assemble a qmail system from scratch.

I do like the architectural design of qmail though. Very modular. I've toyed

with the idea of writing a next-generation MTA, maybe called rmail (r comes
after q and stands for Ruby!).

tickticker wrote:
> Eric,
>
> My opinion is most assuradley dated! And you are correct, the add-ons
> do add value. However, as fantastic as contributors have made qmail
> toaster, nothing would beat updating the source.
>
> Tickticker
>
>>>
>>> Qmail is horrible to setup, and the gentleman who wrote it hasn't
>>> updated it in years, and the custom licensing will not allow addition
>>> of any of the NUMEROUS fixes and updates or a new version (last time
>>> i bothered to look) to the source. Might work great at sending mail,
>>> but not worth the effort IMHO (even with that toaster setup, if it's
>>> still around).
>>
>>
>> I think this is a dated opinion. Installing the toaster today is
>> simply a matter of running a few scripts (granted, it can take a while
>> to compile everything). It also includes simscan, spamassassin,
>> clamav, and a host of other add-ons that are already added in.
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