Re: Linux Computer Names not found

I knew the WINS and "browse master" things existed and know next to nothing
about them. But I would assume they can explain the resolution in and by
windows systems. BTW, the Linux boxes all have Samba but none run all the
time and currently none host any Samba shares. So far they only use it to
access Windows printers and Windows shared storage.

OTOH, your reference to UDP/IP broadcasts made me think of looing into the
DHCP Discovery and Request exchanges. I'll have to try looking into those
later as my ride to StRUT will be arriving soon. Makes me yearn for the
days of using hubs instead of switches when you could more easily monitor
all the traffic of another system starting up.

On 9/5/06, Eric Shubes <plug@shubes.net> wrote:
>
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 22:11 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> >> Whether I look at the DHCP Clients Table on my Linksys WRT54G, a
> >> Network Neighborhood window in XP, a nbtstat -c or net view command
> >> result in a command window, or a servers list in Ubuntu I only see
> >> names for my Windows boxes and my TiVo unit. The Linux boxes show up
> >> in the DHCP client list of course but sans any name at all. I can
> >> ping the windows boxes by name from another windows box but not from
> >> Linux.
> >>
> >> 1) What makes the router recognize the box names for clients other
> >> than Linux? Can something in Linux be configured so the router knows
> >> their names?
> > ----
> > wins/netbios - Linux uses DNS
> >
> > It has nothing to do with the router per se.
> >
> > What you can do is edit /etc/hosts and put entries with short names
> > .i.e.
> >

> > # cat /etc/hosts
> > # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
> > # that require network functionality will fail.
> > 127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain localhost
> > 192.168.2.10            lin-workstation.azapple.com lin-workstation
> > 192.168.2.20            win-workstation.azapple.com win-workstation
> > ----
> >> 2) I am guessing that the windows ping command gets box names from
> >> something other than DNS or the HOSTS file.  Anyone know what?  Or if
> >> Linux is using that ability (via Samba?) to find the Windows Network
> >> boxes?  Could that facility be used to make the Linux box names known
> >> to Windows boxes?
> > ----
> > see above

> >
> > Craig
> >
> "wins" is one part of it, which simply handles name resolution akin to
> DNS.
> Adding your windoze boxes to the hosts file will let linux hosts see
> windoze
> hosts, but windoze might still not see linux.
>
> You also need to consider the windows "browse master", which keeps track
> of
> the network hosts (for the windoze browse network functionality). This is
> kind of an elusive little devil. Any host on the network can be a browse
> master at any given point in time, depending on how you configure your
> hosts. You can also configure a (linux) samba server to be a browse
> master.
> If the samba server is always available, I'd configure it to always be the
> browse master.
>
> Note, I don't believe you need wins/netbios to have browsing
> functionality.
> Browsing is supported by UDP/IP broadcasts.
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
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