Re: Ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 Upgrade Experience

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Author: Vaughn Treude
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 Upgrade Experience
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 21:42, Alexander Henry wrote:
> So your "frustration with Ubuntu" was caused by your suddenly
> understanding more about the nature of Linux?
>
> The Linux kernel is a tarball of C code you can compile yourself. It
> can't even get itself into a CPU, it needs LILO or GRUB on the MBR of a
> hard drive to do that.
>
> Every program that comes with Linux comes in a tarball of C code that can
> be compiled in a UNIX environment with ./configure && make && make install.
>
> Every program may or may not compile with your UNIX environment, it's up
> to the program writer to make sure it does that, and a systems
> administrator to spoon-feed options to ./configure.
>
> Every one of these programs might or might not have hooks or use libraries
> from some other program, or have compiler options to turn on these hooks.
>
> Anyone can write a patch for a program, and share it with the world. Then
> others can download the program from the main provider, download the
> third-party patch, compile, and use it themselves.
>
> Every distribution is a package of kernel with patches, programs with
> patches, program configurations, and a manager program to help take care
> of it all.
>
> That's it! Ain't no magic, and it's very possible for one person to wrap
> their head around it all. Lots of one- or two-man Linux distros out
> there. Just takes time.
>
> Currently, Ubuntu seems to take the most time and care making their distro
> for Aunt Tillie's desktop, plus they have a marketing effort to make sure
> she knows it exists.
>
> Because Ubuntu is Debian Linux, it comes with all the advantages of Debian
> Linux, and because Ubuntu is taking so much time and care polishing what
> is considered Linux's biggest weakness, Linux desktop for Aunt Tillie, yes
> it is a big deal. If catering to Aunt Tillie by way of patch-writing,
> careful thought into /etc files, and marketing is what makes Ubuntu the
> "Windows of Linux", hey I think that's a compliment.
>
> I think Red Hat tried to become the Windows of Linux but failed. They
> stopped halfway into the job, removing advantages of Linux and introducing
> new disadvantages. I think Fedora and Suse are playing a serious game of
> catch-up because of this (e.g. RPM vs apt-get). Ubuntu, knock on wood, is
> not making this mistake. Ubuntu is keeping all the strengths of Debian,
> which are huge, and helping with Debian's faults, which are small for
> hackers but showstoppers for Aunt Tillie (e.g. cups).


I agree, Ubuntu is great. Although my Ubuntu machine has been
temporarily supplanted by Centos for my current project, Ubuntu is the
one I recomment to newbies.

Vaughn


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