Please, correct me anytime, I make just as many mistakes as the next guy, I just hide it better ;}
I based the console requirement for Apache on a quick read of Fedora's instructions. I may have been mistaken there, and I thank you for the correction.
I know that the Netscape DS forked. While the timeline for the former Netscape DS in the RedHat quote is mostly correct, Sun actually bought the rights to the original code (it's in the iPlanet contracts), while AOL retained rights to create derivative works from the codebase prior to the formation of iPlanet (and IIRC the first "improvement" they made on their fork after iPlanet expired was to apply a patch set containing all of the iPlanet changes, which AOL also had rights to).
The RedHat admin tool is a separate item, and, IIRC, is a combination of AOL code (Netscape was just the AOL business unit) and code from an earlier RedHat project to provide administration for OpenLDAP, which remained the target until relatively recently.
RedHat's version of history also ignores the fact that Sun put a large amount of work into their version of DS after the fork as well. I'm not saying that either is better than the other, only that both improved after they parted ways.
The last item was intended to note that there are other open source DS projects, including the corporate-friendly Apache, and the widespread OpenLDAP. There's also talk that Sun may open their DS (although if they use CDDL it won't help much) and Novell may open eDirectory (probably GPL), both of which would be excellent contributions to the Open Source ecosystem.
==Joseph++
Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 02:30 -0700, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
>
>>Netscape DS is owned by Sun, as SunOne DS. It's still proprietary. This is a web-based (Apache mod_nss) admin tool that was developed for OpenLDAP.
>>Curiously, Apache has their own LDAP server in development (Apache DS, http://directory.apache.org/ It's Java based, so expect it to be bundled with both Harmony and Geronimo at some point)
>>
>
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> I ***really*** hate to correct you Joseph as you have been the source of
> incredibly detailed and accurate information but I think this would be a
> concise and probably more accutrate history of what has been known as
> Netscape DS...
> http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Roadmap#History
> which clearly states that Sun is running with a 'fork' of what was
> Netscape DS and that Red Hat bought the remnants outright (and has
> endeavored to release it open source with GPL license).
>
> I am not knowledgeable about all of these things but I did download and
> install it on my workstation (my server is running openldap) and I am
> working through the issues of migrating my DSA over (slowly) but it
> definitely requires java to run the console and I am gathering that it
> is the mod_nss that provides the ssl and not openssl or gnutls. Thus, I
> have yet to see where apache figures into the equation but I am still
> playing around with it (my apache server is definitely not running but
> fedora-ds and various fedora-ds consoles are indeed up and running).
>
> Craig
>
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