Re: OT - thoughts to ponder while showering in Phoenix

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Author: Dierk Seeburg
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Subject: Re: OT - thoughts to ponder while showering in Phoenix
> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 10:44 -0700, wrote:
>
>>You may already know, but... No Infectious contaminates have been

found in
>>the city of phoenix water supply. However there is a higher then normal
>>amount of particulates. In fact there is so much sand (and other equally
>>innocuous particulates) that the water "quality" has fallen below federal
>>standers ie. it is safe to take a shower and even drink, if you like the
>>earthy flavor ;)
>>
>>Though the city is bared from telling you it is safe to drink, since

it would
>>be nearly impossible to guarantee. And limiting water use (showers)

does help
>>reduce the risk of infiltration, which could, possibly, lead to harmful
>>pathogens and toxic compounds found in the soil around the city to

creep into
>>the water supply.
>>
>>Again, for the sanity of you friends, family, and coworkers, I would say
>>shower.
>
> ----
> Actually - I just did that for my own sanity - that is the sanity that I
> care about most actually - perhaps you could tell by the subject change

I'm glad :-)

> For those who are threading neophytes - Threading doesn't depend upon
> the 'Subject' - so this message, even though has a changed 'Subject'
> should still appear within the same thread unless you are using a broken
> Microsoft mail client that is...And this is why if you want to start a
> new topic on a mail list - you never click reply and change the topic.
> It makes those that use threading crazy.

I hope I did that right: I subscribe to the digest, hit reply, copied
the portion of interest into a new message, and closed the reply window.

> I think the subject of sand/particulates speaks to the topic earlier
> discussed of turbidity which makes it difficult to predict the
> effectiveness of normal treatments such as UV radiation and chlorine
> which makes it unclear how much bacteria, etc is actually getting
> through and when we are talking about ppb it's not even clear that the
> sensitivity of the better equipment is capable.

I'm sure they're required to perform continuous culture tests anyway
which would show how many bacteria, of any get through.

> OK - but this digresses from thoughts to ponder while showering in
> Phoenix...If I were an obsessive-compulsive, I would be in Nirvana.
>
> If you use anti-bacterial soap but rinse with Phoenix water, how long
> does the anti-bacterial properties of the soap last? Long enough for a
> quick rinse? And what about the towel? Launder the towel? Clorox 2 - as
> effective as Clorox?

All the anti-bacterial soaps just contribute to increased bacterial
resistance to anything and everything (antimicrobial agents,
antibacterial agents, etc.). Just use normal soap and wash your hands,
don't just rinse. If you do that, you don't even have to wash the towel
after each use :-). For that, any laundry detergent shoudl do fine.
How do I know? I used to grow E. coli for a living, that's how.

> Feeling extremely brave after shower and still not keeling over, I
> actually used Phoenix tap water on toothbrush. Can I rely on anti-
> bacterial properties of Listerine to protect me if done immediately
> afterwards? How many rinses?

Yes, one should be fine, but swish for at least 30 seconds.

> After Mayor Phil drank that glass of water yesterday, just what was in
> the antibiotic cocktail he drank afterwards?

Probably nothing, but if anything, probably [insert your favorite mouth
wash here].

> Inquiring minds need to know these things.

Please don't believe all the hype on TV.

> Craig

--
Cheerio,
Dierk Seeburg, +1-602-953-4496,
Web Content Administrator, Choice Hotels International
http://www.choicehotels.com - http://www.choicecentral.com
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