Bless you. I'll give this a try.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "JD Austin" <
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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: restore
> Quoting fhdavenport <fhdavenport@cox.net>:
>
> > That's a terrific lever having the fixes and the alternatives available.
> > You're right about the number of boxes that are not updated. How do you get
> > the updates without having to install them? I'm tired of spending days on a
> > dialup connection just to do updates. It makes me cranky. The thumbdrive
> > thing also worx for AOL customers that have to reload and don't have a CD.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> With mozilla/whatever to this url:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylang=en
> Download them to a directory, and you can burn that to a cd.
>
> I broke them down to versions of windows, ie win98, winME, win2000,winXP.
> Some patches fit more than one though, like Sasser (A-E) Worm Removal Tool
> (KB841720). I renamed a lot of them to make their names more meaningful.
> Windows-KB841720-ENU-V3.exe doesn't exactly stand out as Sasser (A-E) Worm
> Removal Tool.
>
> If Wine ever gets to the point where any windows app will work it would be cool
> to have an 'ultimate windows patch utility' that removes windows and installs
> linux with wine and uses their old windows install as a starting point to give
> them their apps/etc. (Yeah, Im dreaming here...).
>
> JD
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JD Austin" <jd@twingeckos.com>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: restore
> >
> >
> > > Quoting fhdavenport <fhdavenport@cox.net>:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I had a similar experience with the sasser worm and a friend's machine
> > > > running Windows XP. I went to the Symantec site and pulled the sasser
> > fix in
> > > > an executable file. This costs nothing and is a fairly quick download
> > 'cause
> > > > the files are small. You just have to have the bad guy identified as
> > the
> > > > files are specific to the virus/worm. Then before you run the fix, turn
> > off
> > > > the Restore feature. That got it.
> > > >
> > > > If the folks in trouble cannot access the web, I pull the fix and put it
> > on a
> > > > thumbdrive or a floppy, (if they have no USB).
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > >
> > > That's what I've been doing for our clients.
> > > Our web hosting clients call us with virus/worm problems and as a courtesy
> > I
> > > started adding windows updates to our 'client CD'. They just have them pick
> > up
> > > a new one. I have standard directions typed up to give them for how to use
> >
> > > 'shutdown -a' to prevent their machine from rebooting/etc. I also include
> > > mozilla and a bunch of other open source tools on the cd and gently
> > *nudge*
> > > them to use them. Nothing like a virus hit to convince someone to run
> > mozilla
> > > as their default browser/email client ;)
> > >
> > > Having a CD with windows updates on them also makes loading new machines
> > easier
> > > since I don't have that 24 hour downloading session for windows updates.
> > >
> > > It's amazing how many people DON'T do normal windows maintenance. When I
> > went
> > > to a client's business last week they hadn't defragged in 455 days and
> > hadn't
> > > ran scandisk in 90 days. Though other than keeping up with updates on
> > Linux
> > > you don't have to do either of those things :)
> > >
> > > People that say windows is easier than linux have never had to talk a
> > > grandmother through fixing her mouse problems without using a mouse. There
> > are
> > > keyboard shortcuts (tab, ctrl-esc, shift F10, etc) but getting that across
> > over
> > > the phone is frustrating.
> > >
> > > "Hit ctrl-esc, arrow down to My Computer, shift-f10,
> > > select properties, use the tab key to select the tabs at the top,
> > > use the arrow keys to select hardware, tab down to device manager, press
> > enter.
> > > Use the arrow keys to get down to Mice and other pointing devices,
> > > hit the right arrow to expand the menu, down arrow to your mouse.
> > > Tab until you've select the tabs at the top.
> > > Arrow over to the driver tab. Tab down to Uninstall and press
> > > enter, tab to select enter on the windows that popped up...."
> > >
> > > After 15 minutes to explain control - escape, 5 minutes to explain that I
> > mean
> > > the tab key and not the letters t-a-b, I have only one thing to say:
> > AAARGGGH!
> > > The costs to administer windows in large organizations must be huge.
> > > Give me a *nix box with SSH any day.
> > >
> > > JD
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>
> > > > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:54 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: restore
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 10 May 2004, Craig White wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I don't recall seeing anything like that in the distro's that I've
> > > > > > worked with. This is mostly unnecessary since the the two reasons
> > for
> > > > > > this feature are to overcome virus damage or installation damage
> > where
> > > > > > an older dll overwrites a newer dll. Even Windows has implemented a
> > > > > > method to keep the overwrites from occurring now.
> > > > >
> > > > > I rarely touch Windows, but in-laws (who used NetBSD and then Linux for
> > a
> > > > > year before buying a new computer) needed my help.
> > > > >
> > > > > They had the sasser worm. I followed the instructions (so I thought)
> > at
> > > > > the Microsoft.org website. I did a Windows Update and chose yes to
> > update.
> > > > > Then it suggested I needed to restart the system.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I did.
> > > > >
> > > > > The system failed to come back up and was missing a DLL. My mouse moved
> > on
> > > > > a blank screen but nothing else was shown. Booting to safe mode didn't
> > > > > help. Then my Windows friend suggested that I boot using "last known
> > > > > configuration" and it worked.
> > > > >
> > > > > I still had the sasser. Many processes starting faster than I could
> > stop
> > > > > them. Anyways, I manually removed the binaries, removed some registry
> > > > > startups with regedit, and turned on the Xp firewall. All is well now,
> > I
> > > > > guess.
> > > > >
> > > > > For Linux, this couold probably be easily done a couple ways:
> > > > >
> > > > > - backup all configs in a tarball (that is dated)
> > > > >
> > > > > - backup all system commands and libraries
> > > > > or alternatively:
> > > > > - have a list of installed packages with exact version numbers and
> > > > > packages readily available
> > > > >
> > > > > Then to recover to last known configuration have a script that backups
> > > > > broken configuration and overwrites with new.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose that if you had a corrupted 'package' on Linux, you could
> > do
> > > > > > something like 'apt-get -f install package' to put the original
> > binaries
> > > > > > back in place.
> > > > >
> > > > > dpkg can output a list of packages installed and can use same list to
> > > > > install. (But --get-selections doesn't seem to have package versions.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeremy C. Reed
> > > > >
> > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links
> > > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/
> > > > >
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