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Author: Earl, Alex C
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: RE: PostgreSQL
You need to su to the user "postgres" from being root, then you will be
able to do all that stuff.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:

[mailto:plug-discuss-
> ] On Behalf Of Michael Havens
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:18 AM
> To:
> Subject: PostgreSQL
>
>
> Well then, I suppose I'll learn PostgreSQL. It only took about 9

minutes
> to
> download too! I even found a tutorial for thcersion I apt-geted

(7.2.1).
> Unfortunately I ran into problems immediately (1). The tutorial said

that
> it
> meant I didn't have permissions right but I don't know how to fix

those. I
> then figured I should try to create a user. That resulted in a new

error
> (2).
> So my question is: how do I create a user?
>
> 1-
> bmike1@1[bmike1]$ createdb mydb
> psql: FATAL 1: user "bmike1" does not exist
> createdb: database creation failed
> bmike1@1[bmike1]$ sudo createdb mydb
> psql: FATAL 1: user "root" does not exist
> createdb: database creation failed
> bmike1@1[bmike1]$
> bmike1@1[bmike1]$
>
> 2-
> bmike1@1[bmike1]$ sudo createuser bmike1
> Shall the new user be allowed to create databases? (y/n) y
> Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) y
> psql: FATAL 1: user "root" does not exist
> createuser: creation of user "bmike1" failed
> bmike1@1[bmike1]$
>
>
> On Thursday 15 April 2004 21:07, Earl, Alex C wrote:
> > I would have to agree with Jerry. It would depend on what you are
> > looking for. I personally like PostgreSQL because its SQL is more
> > compliant with the ISO standard, it also has the feature like Jerry
> > mentioned of writing Perl (and you can add other languages)

functions
> > right in the database. PostgreSQL does have a smaller user base

right
> > now, I think it is because MySQL _looks_ so much easier to use. I

used
> > both for extended periods of time and personally felt that

PostgreSQL
> > suited my needs better.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> >
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-
> >
> > > ] On Behalf Of Jerry Davis
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:29 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: database
> > >
> > > On Thursday 15 April 2004 08:10 pm, Michael Havens wrote:
> > > > A couple of people have recommended I do that. Something I need

to
> >
> > know is
> >
> > > > why you recommend PostgreSQL over MySQL. I mean how is it

better;
> >
> > does it
> >
> > > > have more of a future; is it easier to learn or is it just

differant
> >
> > to
> >
> > > > learn?
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > When I fooled around with MySQL and PostgreSQL, I was equally
> >
> > impressed with
> >
> > > both of them.
> > >
> > > 1) MySQL seemed faster for selects
> > > 2) I liked PostgreSQL's ability to write perl functions right in

the
> >
> > database.
> >
> > > So, I guess it depends upon what you want to do with it.
> > >
> > > I would go to both sites, and look at the features, to make a real
> > > determination.
> > >
> > > I have a both O'Reilly books. Alas ... I am currently pretty far

away
> >
> > from
> >
> > > Phoenix now.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > > I was advised not to go with it previously because I could get

help
> >
> > from
> >
> > > > more people if I went with MySQL.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then again
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 15 April 2004 17:19, Earl, Alex C wrote:
> > > > > > > am I correct in assuming that you need Apache to be

running to
> >
> > work
> >
> > > > > with
> > > > >
> > > > > > > MySQL?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. MySQL is completely independent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a very large and still fast growing field of
> >
> > development,
> >
> > > > > LAMP:
> > > > > > Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP. http://www.onlamp.com/ The

tools
> >
> > work
> >
> > > > > very
> > > > >
> > > > > > well together, and will for a very long time since

development
> >
> > of all
> >
> > > > > > these is geared toward working together AND working with as

many
> >
> > other
> >
> > > > > > protocols as possible. For instance, I worked on a project

that
> > > > >
> > > > > included
> > > > >
> > > > > > a DB2 database, which PHP could interface through an ODBC

driver
> > > > >
> > > > > provided
> > > > >
> > > > > > by IBM. So it was a part LAMP and part LA[db2]P website.

Since
> >
> > this
> >
> > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > > Linux goodness, you can also write cron jobs that run php on

the
> > > > >
> > > > > command
> > > > >
> > > > > > line, e-mail users, automatically submit e-mails into a

MySQL
> >
> > table,
> >
> > > > > > whatever.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also highly recommend http://safari.oreilly.com/ .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Alexander
> > > > >
> > > > > I personally recommend PostgreSQL over MySQL as well, I failed

to
> > > > > mention this earlier. I would also recommend using something

like
> >
> > PEAR
> >
> > > > > to abstract the accesses to the database so that you can plug
> >
> > different
> >
> > > > > database servers into the back of your scripts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
> > > > >
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