Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope

Debian has been suggested several times, so I'm tempted.
Point me to a web site that will convince me its worth the effort to switch.
--Phil M.

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Wultsch <robert.wultsch@asu.edu>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope


> Ever think about debian?
>
> Phil Mattison wrote:
>
> > This system is a PentiumIII 600MHz with 128MB RAM in a genuine Intel
> > motherboard. No strange hardware, recent Netgear PCI LAN card, ordinary
ATA
> > CD-ROM drive and floppy, SIS-300 graphics chip, and that's it. Took me
about
> > a day and a half to install RH7.3, get samba running and setup Apache.
Its
> > fairly stable so long as I connect via SSH from a remote terminal or
move
> > files via samba (I edit on a Win98 box). I used to leave it on for weeks
at
> > a time. But I like to use the KDE email reader to check my server logs
etc,
> > and gradually I noticed a correlation between using that and system
> > instability. Now I shut it down every night and minimize my KDE/Gnome
usage,
> > so the effort to figure out the problem is more than that of avoiding
it. I
> > have a RH8.0 box set I was going to upgrade to, but heard that RH major
> > releases tend to be the least stable (what the !?!?!). I think the
> > open-source community is like the Bizarro world of computing, to borrow
from
> > Sienfeld. Just the same, I love a free lunch. I guess I just have to
chew
> > carefully.
> > --Phil M.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
> >
> >
> >
> >>Occam's Razor applies here.
> >>
> >>On a particular box Linux is unstable but Windows 98 is stable. Why?
> >>
> >>Is it more probable that thousands of other installations of that same
> >
> > Linux distro version are also unstable and the users are lying about the
> > stablility?
> >
> >>OR
> >>
> >>Is it more probable that the particular computer has odd or flakey
> >
> > hardware or some other issue that the particular Linux distro version
does
> > not handle well?
> >
> >>There is some flakey or poorly documented hardware, especially in some
> >
> > older PCs, that just don't run Linux correctly. IMO Linux actually
pushes
> > the hardware harder than Win98 ever will. Marginal chips or vendors
that
> > won't release required information make it hard to write good drivers
for
> > some hardware.
> >
> >>OTOH, it could be something else. :^)
> >>
> >>Alan
> >>
> >>-------Original Message-------
> >>From: Tom Achtenberg <TomA@fh.org>
> >>Sent: 06/12/03 01:08 PM
> >>To: "'plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us'"
> >
> > <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >
> >>Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
> >>
> >>
> >>>Phil, I had the same problems with my RH 7.3 box. It was much less
> >
> > stable
> >
> >>than my Windows 98 box! I finally gave up. I'm now trying Mandrake
9.1.
> >>It took 4 days and several attempts to get the install completed without
> >>errors. (Found the disk 1 iso on the Hawaii mirror is bad too.) I
> >
> > haven't
> >
> >>had much time to work with it yet, but it has been a disappointment too.
> >>Mandrake update doesn't work to start with. The whole task bar at the
> >>bottom of the screen keeps disappearing too. Only way to get it back is
> >
> > to log
> >
> >>off and log back on. This same box would run for weeks on Win 98 with
no
> >>errors. I have not even tried to connect to my file server or printers
> >
> > yet.
> >
> >> If I cannot do it without manually editing files I'll probably just put
> >>Windows back on and forget about Linux for a desktop.
> >>
> >>
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