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Author: Lynn David Newton
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Subject: FreeBSD question
JF> It almost looks like the system was built up
JF> without using *any* of the admin tools.


This would not surprise me, knowing who built it.

JF> Can I see outputs from the commands below:


JF> pkg_info


Here we go:

# pkg_info
pkg_info
XFree86-libraries-4.2.0_1 XFree86-4 include/(shared) library kit
Xaw3d-1.5           A 3-D Athena Widget set that looks like Motif
autoconf213-2.13.000227_1 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms 
bison-1.35_1        A parser generator from FSF, (mostly) compatible with Yacc
cvsup-16.1f         General network file distribution system optimized for CVS 
emacs-21.2_1        GNU editing macros
expat-1.95.2        XML 1.0 parser written in C
ezm3-1.0            Easier, more portable Modula-3 distribution for building CV
freetype2-2.0.9     A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine
gettext-0.11.1_3    GNU gettext package
gmake-3.79.1_1      GNU version of 'make' utility
imake-4.2.0_1       Imake and other utilities from XFree86
jpeg-6b_1           IJG's jpeg compression utilities
libiconv-1.7_5      A character set conversion library
libtool-1.3.4_3     Generic shared library support script
libungif-4.1.0b1    Tools and library routines for working with GIF images
m4-1.4_1            GNU's m4
pgp-2.6.3i          PGP MIT or International version - Public-Key encryption fo
pkg_tarup-1.2_3     Generates binary package from installed package
png-1.2.2_4         Library for manipulating PNG images
popt-1.5.1_1        A getopt(3) like library with a number of enhancements, fro
portupgrade-20020429 Very powerful FreeBSD ports/packages upgrading tool and mor
rsync-2.5.5_1       A network file distribution/synchronization utility
ruby-1.6.7.2002.05.23 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language
ruby-bdb1-0.1.7     Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with full featu
ruby-fnmatch-1.1b_1 A Ruby module which provides File::fnmatch and File::FNM_*
ruby-optparse-0.8.6 Yet another command line option parser for Ruby
sendmail-8.12.3_1   Reliable, highly configurable mail transfer agent with util
tiff-3.5.7          Tools and library routines for working with TIFF images
ksh-2.05a# 


JF> uname -a


JF> SysAdmin Stuff:


JF> /etc/defaults is where stuff is stored to be updated by mergemaster.
JF> copying the /etc/defaults/make.conf to /etc/make.conf will let you
JF> set overrides for building userland/kernelland/ports that will not
JF> be deleted/modified when you do your next installworld.


JF> For everything else I have to be a BOFH and have you look in the handbook
JF> located in /usr/share/doc/handbook so you can understand how to use CVSUP
JF> and how it all fits together with /etc/make.conf, among other things.
JF> There is also a searchable handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/
JF> Once you get thru the reading you will understand that a simple:
JF> make update
JF> can be used to update your src/ports/docs tree(s) unattended.
JF> Just make sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING before buildworld.



JF> On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 11:40:48AM -0700, Lynn David Newton wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the fast turnaround on my FreeBSD questions.
>> I've done much Unix sysadmin, but little with FreeBSD,
>> so I have some questions before I do something that
>> will meltdown the machine, which would not please my
>> boss.
>>
JF> 1. You must pkg_delete the old version before "make install"
>>
>> I ran pkgdb -F and see that the string "mysql" is *NOT*
>> in the output.
>>
>> This suggests to me that the existing version of mysql
>> was not installed through /usr/ports, but probably by
>> building from a source distribution. If so, this could
>> mean all bets are off as far as paths and all that. I
>> might be shooting at the wrong target.
>>
>> Agreed?
>>
JF> to make sure you aren't mixing and matching
JF> files between version.
>>
JF> 2. Update your ports tree with CVSUP.
JF> Edit /etc/make.conf to make this easily
JF> scriptable.
>>
>> There is no existing /etc/make.conf on the system.
>> There is an /etc/defaults/make.conf and also a
>> /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults/make.conf, which I
>> assume is irrelevant.
>>
>> /etc/make.conf is large, but everything in it is
>> commented out except for a definition for BDECFLAGS. I
>> wouldn't know what I could safely alter in this file
>> without studying it for a while. I believe I'll just
>> ignore it for now. My primary objective is simply to
>> get mysql updated.
>>
>> cvsup itself did not exist on the system. Therefore, I
>> had to build/install cvsup from /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
>>
>> It surprises me that cvsup is not installed on the
>> system by default, given that it is so central to the
>> process of installing/upgrading packages in FreeBSD.
>>
>> (This is a fairly new system that we are gradually
>> building to be a special purpose server. The person who
>> originally created it is no longer with us, and was a
>> 19-year-old kid part-timer, not an experienced
>> professional sysadmin. Now that some of this work has
>> been offloaded to me I'm unsure what I'm dealing with.)
>>
>> I have not yet executed cvsup. Will a single command
>> with no arguments do what I want it to do, or are there
>> standard options and arguments?
>>
JF> 3. *Backup* your database(s)!!!!
>>
>> Yep, I'll certainly do that. Probably ought to stop the
>> mysqld, too.
>>
JF> 4. do a "make" first and check for any needed arguments, switches,
JF> or pkg messages with instructions for things
JF> you may need to adjust/add/remove.
>>
JF> A safer way is to install portupgrade and manage
JF> ports with it.
>>
>> Okay, I've done that, i.e., I also had to build
>> portupgrade from /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade
>> because it wasn't installed, but it seems to be raring
>> to go.
>>
JF> To fix and check all ports do:
JF> pkgdb -F
>>
>> See above.
>>
JF> portversion -vc > /tmp/PORTS.LIST
>>
JF> then take a look at the contents of PORTS.LIST for things
JF> that need to be upgraded.
>>
>> All that's in it is a script:
>>
>> # cat /tmp/PORTS.LIST
>>
>> if [ X"$pkgs" != X"" ]; then
>> portupgrade $pkgs
>> fi
>>
>> I'm not sure where I'm at here. Can I just run
>> portupgrade, or do I need to run cvsup and then
>> portupgrade, or what?
>>
>> --
>> Lynn David Newton
>> Phoenix, AZ


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