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Author: Alex W. Smith
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Subject: Linux crash update II
My guess is that it was the driver; the Intel site said that there was
"limited driver support" for Linux. The hardware worked well under Windows
and would work occasionally under Linux. I have to transfer 18 Mb image
files via ftp. Under Windows I could transfer over 100 of them with no
problem, but Linux would transfer 8 to 10 then crash.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Linux on alternative hardware (J.Francois)
2. Re: Linux on alternative hardware (Trent Shipley)
3. text to speech software (David A. Sinck)
4. Re: Linux on alternative hardware (Kyle Faber)
5. The Dreaded TFTP error 2 (Access Violation) (George Gambill)
6. Re: Linux on alternative hardware (DarthLinux)
7. Re: Open Source/Free Software in Maricopa Government (Digital Wokan)
8. Re: Linux on alternative hardware (Kyle Faber)
9. voice recognition (Sundar)
10. Linux crash update (Alex W. Smith)
11. Re: two way mirroring or syncing? (Kurt Granroth)
12. Re: Dot.Bombs AZ Style (Vaughn Treude)
13. Re: Linux crash update (Ted Gould)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:12:08 -0700
From: "J.Francois" <>
To:
Subject: Re: Linux on alternative hardware
Organization: MagusNet.com Design * Develop * Integrate
Reply-To:


This is very nice for making script kiddies pull their hair out when
they try to hack with other peoples tools :)

There is an anonymous remailer running on a Dreamcast with NetBSD
which gets more play for that than being a remailer.

Hmmmmm......maybe this would make for a fun meeting and public demo.

Everyone running Linux/BSD on non-Intel hardware brings it
to a PLUG meeting and gets to show it off.
I would love to see PDAs running webservers being demo'd to
the unwashed masses as a public display.


On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:41:04AM -0700, DarthLinux wrote:
> Now heres an amusing idea:
>
> http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/more/SCPH-97047.asp
>
> Has anyone had a chance of playing with it..?
> it looks like fun- and would be just fine for somone who just needs to
> surf..
> besides- the novelty of running a webserver on a PS2 is almost
> irresistable!
>
> i'm tempted to get it for my ps2, so that my girlfriend can use a
> computer anytime she likes..
> <the server room is off limits, and my laptop requires a password after
> the screen saver kicks in.>
>
> j

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Message: 2
From: Trent Shipley <>
To:
Subject: Re: Linux on alternative hardware
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:23:28 -0700
Reply-To:

I think the real promise is
Sony PS2+Linux+LTSP --> Sony WorkStation2 for phone rooms and other
McWorkers

On Thursday 19 December 2002 10:41 am, DarthLinux wrote:
> Now heres an amusing idea:
>
> http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/more/SCPH-97047.asp
>
> Has anyone had a chance of playing with it..?
> it looks like fun- and would be just fine for somone who just needs to
> surf..
> besides- the novelty of running a webserver on a PS2 is almost
> irresistable!
>
> i'm tempted to get it for my ps2, so that my girlfriend can use a
> computer anytime she likes..
> <the server room is off limits, and my laptop requires a password after
> the screen saver kicks in.>
>
> j
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:53:00 -0700
To:
Subject: text to speech software
From: "David A. Sinck" <>
Reply-To:



\_ SMTP quoth Mike Starke on 12/19/2002 10:20 as having spake thusly:
\_
\_ Is there any text to speech software one would recommend
\_ for Linux? Preferably OS.

I've used festival and it works reasonably well. It's kind of amusing
to turn it on the irc conversations. :-)

David

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Message: 4
From: Kyle Faber <>
Organization: EMR Internet
To:
Subject: Re: Linux on alternative hardware
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:57:46 -0700
Reply-To:

> > i'm tempted to get it for my ps2, so that my girlfriend can use a
> > computer anytime she likes..
> > <the server room is off limits, and my laptop requires a password aft=
er
> > the screen saver kicks in.>

I successfully booted and ploinked around with Linux for my Dreamcast, bu=
t=20
unfortunately I never got far enough to flash the modem (too many hobbies=
) to=20
dial-up and I have been so far unsuccessful in finding one of those pesky=
=20
broadband adapters for a somewhat reasonable price. =20

Reasons why DCLInux wasn't working for me:
=09No CDRWs in the house, so a new CDR was needed everytime i added new=20
software.
=09Using it on a TV was giving me a HUGE MIGRAINE
=09Dialup only access, only after flashing the modem (comes preset to dia=
l SEGA)=20
which I never did.

I ordered a DC->TV converter, and bought some CDRws, but the novelty had=20
passed. It will come around again and hopefully I will get it going. I=20
would be a great little box for something I'm sure ; )

=46rom the details I've read from the PS2 Linux page, it seems very limit=
ed in=20
what you can do with it and a rather handicapped version of Linux (trying=
my=20
best to decode some market-speak mixed with phrases like "binary code for=
=20
other distros will not work with PS2Linux" and the fact that the Linux=20
install formats the HD with no choice to the user.

Granted, I have never used it at all. The DCLinux project is homebrew, a=
nd=20
with the new availability of a PS2 broadband adapter without the rest of =
the=20
PS2Linux kit, I would imagine a homebrew PS2 version is on the horizon. =
It=20
is great that Sony is recognizing the market and purchasing a kit partial=
ly=20
for that reason isn't a bad idea. (ie Let Sony make some coin in the mar=
ket=20
M$ is suing to keep down.)

I found the answer to your "surfing computer" dilemma was to turn a crapp=
y=20
laptop (p-100 32MB RAM, 1gig drive) into a thin client. Also works for m=
e=20
when I want to work from the couch. Her user ID auto sets all the settin=
gs=20
she needs and logs her into her account on my main workstation. Not=20
applicable for me, but in your case it may be worthwhile to point out tha=
t if=20
you ever "userdel" her from your life, you can "userdel" her from the thi=
n=20
client as well :-) Either that or just rename and recycle the account fo=
r=20
the next one ; )

Kyle Faber
EMR Internet

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Message: 5
From: George Gambill <>
To:
Subject: The Dreaded TFTP error 2 (Access Violation)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:06:08 -0700
Reply-To:

The Dreaded TFTP error 2 (Access Violation)

Booting the ThinClient (ws001) form a RH 8 server displays the following Me:
Me: 192.168.100.151, Server: 192.168.100.66
Both are correct indicating DHCP is alive and well

Then comes the dreaded TFTP error 2 (Access Violation) message(s):

Loading 192.168.100.66:/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1 .TFTP error 2 (Access
Violation)
Unable to load file"

The "Loading 192.168.100.66:/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1" portion of the TFTP
message looks good.

The ".TFTP error 2 (Access Violation): portion of the TFTP message does not
look so good.
Nor does the "Unable to load file".

/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1 is actually in /ltspboot/lts/
(/ltspboot/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1) but the documentation claims this is
OK.
Permissions on /tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1 are now 655 (I changed
them while Easter Egging)
Permissions on /tftpboot/ are 755
Permissions on /tftpboot/lts/ are 755

Just in case, I created /lts/ and copied vmlinuz-2.4.19-ltsp-1 to it. No
luck.

FYI, this is a simple network, no DNS required, no Router required, only two
machines (on of which it ThinClient) one hub, two connections, no outside
connection. The server was setup with "medium security" which may be an
issue (haven't got to that part of the book yet) 

/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf contains (in part):
  [default]
    SERVER  = 192.168.100.66
  [ws001]
    XSERVER  = auto
    USE_NFS_SWAP  = N
    SWAPFILE_SIZE  = 48m
    RUNLEVEL  = 5


chkconfig -list | grep tftp shows it on (running). 

/etc/hosts contains (in total):
127.0.0.1    nowhere localhost.colaldomain localhost
192.168.100.66    server
192.168.100.151    ws001


/etc/hosts.conf contains (in total):
order hosts,bind 

/etc/hosts.allow contains the following (in total):
  ALL: 192.168.100.       : ALLOW
  swat: 126.0.0.1              : ALLOW
  swat: 192.168.100.        :ALLOW
  swat:  192.168.100.66   : ALLOW
  swat:  192.168.100.151  :ALLOW
  in.tftpd:  192.168.100.66
  swat:   ALL : DENY


/etc/hosts.deny contains (in total):
swat: ALL EXCEPT 127.0.0.1
ALL: ALL 

/etc/xinetd.d/services (contains in part):
   disable    = yes
    only_from = 127.0.0.1
as does /etc/xinetd.d/dervers


/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/;ts/cpnf contains (in part)
[DEFAULT}
  SERVER    = 192.168.100.66
#  DNS_SERVER   = 192.168.100.66
    SEARCH_DOMAIN  = "cgcltsp.org
   XSERVER     = auto
  [ws001]
    USE_NFS_SWAP   = N
    SWAPFILE_SIZE   = 48 m


/etc/exports contains (in total):
    /opt/ltsp/i286 192.168.100.66/255.255.255.0 (no,no_root_squash, sync)
    /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles  192.168.100.66/255.255.255.0
(no,no_root_squash, sync)


Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:13:12 -0700
Subject: Re: Linux on alternative hardware
From: DarthLinux <>
To:
Reply-To:


On Thursday, Dec 19, 2002, at 12:57 America/Phoenix, Kyle Faber wrote:

snip--


I found the answer to your "surfing computer" dilemma was to turn a
crappy
laptop (p-100 32MB RAM, 1gig drive) into a thin client. Also works for
me
when I want to work from the couch. Her user ID auto sets all the
settings
> she needs and logs her into her account on my main workstation.

she has an account on my laptop- but she cant use it while i'm logged
in.. <notorious for DLing stuff while i'm out> the laptop is a tibook
is running jaguar.
she likes windows.
needless to say- i refuse to run MicroShaft stuff on any of my
hardware. and refuse to support it on somone elses.
as far as the p100 laptop- whats it cost..? the linux kit for the PS2
is 200.00

> Not
> applicable for me, but in your case it may be worthwhile to point out
> that if
> you ever "userdel" her from your life, you can "userdel" her from the
> thin
> client as well :-) Either that or just rename and recycle the account
> for
> the next one ; )
>
oo--- and i thought i could be evil. <taking notes>

> Kyle Faber
> EMR Internet
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:31:23 -0500
From: Digital Wokan <>
To:
Subject: Re: Open Source/Free Software in Maricopa Government
Reply-To:

Derek Neighbors wrote, On 12/18/2002 3:46 PM:
>>But then Maricopa County would have to hire competent IT people at
>>market rates, instead of incompetent hacks at 2/3rds of market rate!
>
> What makes you think they dont pay people at market rate? Is this just
> your opinion or do you have fact to back it up? I think you are carrying
> forward the myth of government employees a bit too much.


Maybe it's just my jaded experience from my last job hunt, but every
time I see someone complain about getting paid or paying market rates,
the thing they aren't voicing is their complaint that they can't get
$75K to do a $40K job.

Wake up. Market rates are what your competitors are willing to work for.


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Message: 8
From: Kyle Faber <>
Organization: EMR Internet
To:
Subject: Re: Linux on alternative hardware
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:53:08 -0700
Reply-To:

> she has an account on my laptop- but she cant use it while i'm logged
> in.. <notorious for DLing stuff while i'm out> the laptop is a tibook
> is running jaguar.
> she likes windows.
> needless to say- i refuse to run MicroShaft stuff on any of my
> hardware. and refuse to support it on somone elses.
> as far as the p100 laptop- whats it cost..? the linux kit for the PS2
> is 200.00
=09
I have purchased two comparable laptops at the Tech Swap meet in Scottsda=
le.=20

http://www.azweb.com/~troop446/index.html

Each of them was approx. $100 cash and carry. Each had a crapped out bat=
tery,=20
but also had AC power supply. I have a DC->120v Ac converter that suppli=
es=20
me an electrical jack in my car. Allows me to flip them on and know what=
I=20
am getting into before I leave the parking lot. Has helped me a couple t=
imes=20
to not buy a paperweight. Also, doing some research on the "crappy old=20
laptop linux howtos" on the 'net can let you know about models to grab an=
d=20
models to let slide. In the end, the swap meet is a way for me to feed m=
y=20
gadget hobby at slighter cheaper than market rates. And with Linux, I ca=
n=20
scale all my installations to exactly what I have available and get some=20
great use out of what Mr. Gates would call outdated and obsolete hardware=
=2E

Kyle Faber
EMR Internet


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:47:17 -0700
From: Sundar <>
To:
Subject: voice recognition
Reply-To:

Hello,

Do you guys know any voice recognition open source/shareware software,
like Via Voice from IBM.

-Sundar


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:45:26 -0700
From: "Alex W. Smith" <>
Subject: Linux crash update
To:
Reply-To:

Just a quick note to anyone they may be annoyed by the same problem. The
problem was solved by disabling the integrated network card on the Intel
D845PT motherboard and installing a high end 3Com PCI network card.


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Message: 11
From: Kurt Granroth <>
Organization: Ticketmaster
To:
Subject: Re: two way mirroring or syncing?
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:46:20 -0700
Reply-To:

On Thursday 19 December 2002 09:47 am, der.hans wrote:
> Am 17. Dec, 2002 schw=E4tzte Kurt Granroth so:
> > Does anybody know of a tool that will keep two directories totally in
> > sync but not in real-time? Basically, I want to have two directories=
/A
> > and /B that every time they are synced (maybe once an hour), they wil=
l be
> > identical. Changes can happen on either /A or /B.
>
> Look at unison. I also see a package called tra which claims to have
> advantage over unison if you end up with a third box in the mix.

Very cool. That's exactly what I was looking for!

Since they aren't the most obvious hits on google, here are links to thei=
r=20
homepages for future use:

Unison: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
Tra: http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/~rsc/tra/
--=20
Kurt Granroth | Software Engineer | Ticketmaster
8181 S. 48th St., Suite 100 | Phoenix, AZ 85044
phone: 602.414.1632
email:

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Message: 12
From: Vaughn Treude <>
Organization: Nakota Software, Inc.
To:
Subject: Re: Dot.Bombs AZ Style
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:13:49 -0500
Reply-To:

Does this mean my Opnix T-shirt will soon be a collector's item?

-VT

On Thursday 19 December 2002 10:54, you wrote:
> For those that may not read the AZ Republic. I found it interesting to
> see on the _front_ page this blurb:
>
> Todays Top Five
> ( http://www.arizonarepublic.com/news/articles/1219A1rail19.html )
>
> Dot.bombs
> ( http://arizonarepublic.com/business/articles/1219Dotbombs19.html )
>
> Two high-profile Arizona companies founded when fervor for new Internet
> technologies was high have dot.bombed: DevelopOnline and Opnix. Business,
> D1.
>
> I only post this as I know both companies used GNU/Linux to varying
> extents and both companies had people involved in PLUG to some degree.
> Hopefully, the tech economy in this state will improve in the next 18
> months so we can see success and not failure stories on the front page. :)
>
> -Derek
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: 20 Dec 2002 00:01:15 -0700
From: "Ted Gould" <>
To:
Subject: Re: Linux crash update
Organization:
Reply-To:


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On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 15:45, Alex W. Smith wrote:
> Just a quick note to anyone they may be annoyed by the same problem. The
> problem was solved by disabling the integrated network card on the Intel
> D845PT motherboard and installing a high end 3Com PCI network card.

Just to be curious, did you figure out what was happening? Bad driver?=20
Bad hardware? 

        --Ted


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