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Author: Lee Levine
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*GAK!*

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:22, George Toft wrote:

    Unix is simply a different way if thinking.  Once you make the
    transition, you will find Windows very irritating and hard to use.  I
    recently encountered a problem that had to be solved using Windows, and
    I spent over 3 hours on the solution, including the time to mail to a
    list and ask for advice.  This was a 10 second (because I type slow)
    solution under Unix.
   =20
    Have patience.  It took me 4 months to make the transition, and this wa=
s
    while I was working full-time, and going to college.  Border's made a
    few bucks off me as I bought (or read in the store) every Linux book
    they had.  I was motivated - my Windows machine blue-screened about onc=
e
    per hour (range was 5 minutes to 3 hours, with the median at 1 hour).=20
    53 Windows reinstalls with various configurations, including changing
    out every piece of hardware had no effect.  When I changed the OS, I
    stopped having problems.
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    After making the transition, I needed to rewrite an old Visual Basic
    application I had running under Windows.  That app tooke me 30 hours to
    write using VB.  It took me 3 hours to write using Tcl with the book
    open learning as I wrote it.  This was more than just a translation or =
a
    port - I was rewriting it from scratch and memory.
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    Hang in there.
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    George
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    > Taliesin MacAran wrote:
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    > That gets me Can't open perl script "mcpan": No such file or director=
y
    >=20
    > *SIGH*
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    > I have the feeling that I'm too dumb to use Linux.
    > This is not the first time I've felt this way.
    > Guess I'm not enuff of a 'puter Geek.
    >=20
    > Lee
    >=20
    > On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 22:58, Craig White wrote:
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    >      as root - try
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    >      perl mcpan -e 'install modules Test::Harness'
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    >      Craig
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    > --
    > --
    > Taliesin MacAran
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    > Visit my website at http://kd7eth.net
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    > Beware of what you speak, for indeed the words we speak make shadows
    > of what is to come, and by speaking them we bring them to pass.
    > -- Taliesin, The Merlin of Britain
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    > batlh biHeghjaj! Heghle'neH QaQ jajvam!
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On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:22, George Toft wrote:
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Unix is simply a different=
 way if thinking.  Once you make the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>transition, you will find Windo=
ws very irritating and hard to use.  I</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>recently encountered a problem =
that had to be solved using Windows, and</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>I spent over 3 hours on the sol=
ution, including the time to mail to a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>list and ask for advice.  This =
was a 10 second (because I type slow)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>solution under Unix.</FONT></FO=
NT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Have patience.  It took me 4 mo=
nths to make the transition, and this was</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>while I was working full-time, =
and going to college.  Border's made a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>few bucks off me as I bought (o=
r read in the store) every Linux book</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>they had.  I was motivated - my=
 Windows machine blue-screened about once</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>per hour (range was 5 minutes t=
o 3 hours, with the median at 1 hour). </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>53 Windows reinstalls with vari=
ous configurations, including changing</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>out every piece of hardware had=
 no effect.  When I changed the OS, I</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>stopped having problems.</FONT>=
</FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>After making the transition, I =
needed to rewrite an old Visual Basic</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>application I had running under=
 Windows.  That app tooke me 30 hours to</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>write using VB.  It took me 3 h=
ours to write using Tcl with the book</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>open learning as I wrote it.  T=
his was more than just a translation or a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>port - I was rewriting it from =
scratch and memory.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Hang in there.</FONT></FONT></I=

>

<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>George</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; Taliesin MacAran wrote:</F=
ONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; That gets me Can't open pe=
rl script &quot;mcpan&quot;: No such file or directory</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; *SIGH*</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; I have the feeling that I'=
m too dumb to use Linux.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; This is not the first time=
 I've felt this way.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; Guess I'm not enuff of a '=
puter Geek.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; Lee</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 22:5=
8, Craig White wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      as root - try</FONT><=
/FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      perl mcpan -e 'instal=
l modules Test::Harness'</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      Craig</FONT></FONT></=
I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=
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-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      PLUG-discuss mailing =
list - </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      To subscribe, unsubsc=
ribe, or to change  you mail settings:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt;      http://lists.PLUG.pho=
enix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; --</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; --</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; Taliesin MacAran</FONT></F=
ONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; Visit my website at http:/=
/kd7eth.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; Beware of what you speak, =
for indeed the words we speak make shadows</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; of what is to come, and by=
 speaking them we bring them to pass.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; -- Taliesin, The Merlin of=
 Britain</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; batlh biHeghjaj! Heghle'ne=
H QaQ jajvam!</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
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