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Author: Scott Goodwin
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Subject: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #2399 - 11 msgs
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:46:02 -0700,
said:

I've experienced the same behavior intermittently on my RH 7.2 box
while checking out
source from SourceForge.net. Not sure where the problem is, but when I
Ctrl-C to break the
connection, it seems that the last file did fully download, so the
problem is probably in the
closing the socket connection itself.

/s.




> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:20:25 -0700
> From:
> To: plug <>
> Subject: CVS via SSH issues
> Reply-To:
>
> Okay, maybe I'm doing something _completely_ wrong in here somewhere,
> but
> I'm experiencing problems doing a CVS checkout operation via SSH.
> Either CVS
> or SSH is hanging after checking out the last file in a module. Here's
> the
> scenario:
> 
>      [mondoshawan@nadesico:~]$ echo $CVSROOT
>      :ext:mondoshawan@thing:/var/cvs
>      [mondoshawan@nadesico:~]$ echo $CVS_RSH
>      ssh
>      [mondoshawan@nadesico:~]$ cvs co common
>      mondoshawan@thing's password: 
>      U common/classes/srep/live/MsgTopicPostable.php
>      U common/classes/srep/live/Nav.php
>               (...ad infinitum...)
>      U common/functions/session.php

>
> Just after dealing with that last file, it hangs. It just so happens
> that
> common/functions/session.php is the last file it needs to checkout.
> When I
> do the checkout locally on Thing, I don't have any problems.
> Additionally,
> other coworkers don't have this issue (both Mac OS X and Debian Linux),
> so
> I'm guessing it's an issue on my local machine. Any ideas?
>
> --
> Thomas "Mondoshawan" Tate
>
> http://tank.webhop.org
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: Lynn David Newton <>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:22:31 -0700
> To: Phoenix Linux Users Group <>
> Subject: PostgreSQL versus MySQL
> Reply-To:
>
>
> To persons who have knowledge of both MySQL and
> PostgreSQL:
>
> Could someone characterize the highlights and
> differences, particularly regarding PostgreSQL? I've
> been working on a project where I suggested using
> MySQL, with which I am sufficiently familiar to just
> jump right in and start using it to design a database,
> tables, etc. However, I know utterly nothing about
> PostgreSQL, and the person I'm working for believes it
> would be a better choice for the project we're working
> on, and also doesn't mind the time it will take for me
> to come up to speed on it. No problem there, I'm always
> happy for someone to pay me to learn something new, but
> I also need to get a handle on it as quickly as
> possible.
>
> Any short bullet list of comparisons would be much
> appreciated.
>
> And lest I forget -- congratulations to PLUG on pulling
> off what was apparently a successful event this past
> weekend. I was not able to be there myself, but
> encouraged others to go.
>
> --
> Lynn David Newton
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Subject: OpenSSL encryption
> From: Benjamin Bostow <>
> To:
> Date: 24 Jun 2002 15:59:55 -0700
> Reply-To:
>
> What is the strength of the encryption in OpenSSL and OpenSSH? Is there
> a way to limit it to 56-bit for export and not allow the 128-bit?
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:28:20 -0700
> From: KevinO <>
> To: AZUnix csnet <>,
>    PLUG discuss
>  <>
> Subject: [Fwd: [openssh-unix-announce] Re: Upcoming OpenSSH
> vulnerability]
> Reply-To:

>
> For your SA'n enjoyment
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [openssh-unix-announce] Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:06:31 +0200
> From: Markus Friedl <>
> Reply-To:
> To: ,
> References: <>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 03:00:10PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:00:10 -0600
> > From: Theo de Raadt <>
> > Subject: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability
> > To:
> > Cc:
> > Cc:
> > Cc:
> >
> > There is an upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability that we're working on with
> > ISS. Details will be published early next week.
> >
> > However, I can say that when OpenSSH's sshd(8) is running with priv
> > seperation, the bug cannot be exploited.
> >
> > OpenSSH 3.3p was released a few days ago, with various improvements
> > but in particular, it significantly improves the Linux and Solaris
> > support for priv sep. However, it is not yet perfect. Compression is
> > disabled on some systems, and the many varieties of PAM are causing
> > major headaches.
> >
> > However, everyone should update to OpenSSH 3.3 immediately, and enable
> > priv seperation in their ssh daemons, by setting this in your
> > /etc/ssh/sshd_config file:
> >
>  >     UsePrivilegeSeparation yes

> >
> > Depending on what your system is, privsep may break some ssh
> > functionality. However, with privsep turned on, you are immune from
> > at least one remote hole. Understand?
> >
> > 3.3 does not contain a fix for this upcoming bug.
> >
> > If priv seperation does not work on your operating system, you need to
> > work with your vendor so that we get patches to make it work on your
> > system. Our developers are swamped enough without trying to support
> > the myriad of PAM and other issues which exist in various systems.
> > You must call on your vendors to help us.
> >
> > Basically, OpenSSH sshd(8) is something like 27000 lines of code. A
> > lot of that runs as root. But when UsePrivilegeSeparation is enabled,
> > the daemon splits into two parts. A part containing about 2500 lines
> > of code remains as root, and the rest of the code is shoved into a
> > chroot-jail without any privs. This makes the daemon less vulnerable
> > to attack.
> >
> > We've been trying to warn vendors about 3.3 and the need for privsep,
> > but they really have not heeded our call for assistance. They have
> > basically ignored us. Some, like Alan Cox, even went further stating
> > that privsep was not being worked on because "Nobody provided any info
> > which proves the problem, and many people dont trust you theo" and
> > suggested I "might be feeding everyone a trojan" (I think I'll publish
> > that letter -- it is just so funny). HP's representative was
> > downright rude, but that is OK because Compaq is retiring him. Except
> > for Solar Designer, I think none of them has helped the OpenSSH
> > portable developers make privsep work better on their systems.
> > Apparently Solar Designer is the only person who understands the need
> > for this stuff.
> >
> > So, if vendors would JUMP and get it working better, and send us
> > patches IMMEDIATELY, we can perhaps make a 3.3.1p release on Friday
> > which supports these systems better. So send patches by Thursday
> > night please. Then on Tuesday or Wednesday the complete bug report
> > with patches (and exploits soon after I am sure) will hit BUGTRAQ.
> >
> > Let me repeat: even if the bug exists in a privsep'd sshd, it is not
> > exploitable. Clearly we cannot yet publish what the bug is, or
> > provide anyone with the real patch, but we can try to get maximum
> > deployement of privsep, and therefore make it hurt less when the
> > problem is published.
> >
> > So please push your vendor to get us maximally working privsep patches
> > as soon as possible!
> >
> > We've given most vendors since Friday last week until Thursday to get
> > privsep working well for you so that when the announcement comes out
> > next week their customers are immunized. That is nearly a full week
> > (but they have already wasted a weekend and a Monday). Really I think
> > this is the best we can hope to do (this thing will eventually leak,
> > at which point the details will be published).
> >
> > Customers can judge their vendors by how they respond to this issue.
> >
> > OpenBSD and NetBSD users should also update to OpenSSH 3.3 right away.
> > On OpenBSD privsep works flawlessly, and I have reports that is also
> > true on NetBSD. All other systems appear to have minor or major
> > weaknesses when this code is running.
> >
> > (securityfocus postmaster; please post this through immediately, since
> > i have bcc'd over 30 other places..)
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