Heh, that's pretty good. :) I do have to admit though, I really don't
like the new iMac design. I like the concept, I *really* like the screen
(except for the size), and I like the specs on the machine. However, that
"breast implant with an Apple logo" they used for a base just doesn't
impress me. :)
~Jay
On 7 Jan 2002, Todd Hought wrote:
> I can certainly attest to that, that Powerbook of yours is dead sexy.
> and every time I go to fry's for something, I find myself drawn to those
> nifty macs, they're just smooth, makes me wanna buy one, if not for me,
> for my wife, since she does most of the graphics stuff around here.
>
> However, I cannot help but put this in here, for those who may or may
> not have seen it. :-)
>
> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/01/oooh.html
>
> -T
> On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 22:58, Jay wrote:
> >
> >
> > A couple points...
> >
> > * I used Apple products exclusively from 1979 (Apple ][) through the late
> > 80's. Then Apple got boring and fell behind the pack.
> >
> > * I have been a Linux zealot since 1995 and have used it exclusively for
> > both servers and desktops since (although I do have VM Ware for a couple
> > of Windows apps, but only run it once a month or so). I have mainly used
> > Slackware, although relatively recently I've started using Mandrake.
> >
> > * About three or four months ago, I just couldn't resist the Mac OSX
> > "urge" any longer and went to the Apple Store in Chandler and bought a
> > Titanium PowerBook G4.
> >
> > * In a matter of HOURS, I was instantly re-converted to an Apple zealot
> > for the desktop. I'll still use Linux and *BSD for servers, but ANY
> > desktop/portable products I buy from now on will be 100% Apple and OSX.
> >
> > The early OSX releases were kinda' slow sometimes (OSX loves RAM, but hey,
> > it's cheap these days). However, current OSX releases absolutely 100% KICK
> > ASS - no question about it. I know of at least one other long-time Linux
> > zealot, now OSX-on-the-desktop/portable zealot, on this list. In reading
> > online forums, mailing lists, etc... it is quite clear that GEEKS LOVE OSX
> > and I couldn't agree more.
> >
> > The system is just so perfectly seamless and beautiful. Everything always
> > just works. No drivers, no hours of obscure configs, no library problems,
> > no muss, no fuss. I can't stress this enough - everything just works -
> > period.
> >
> > A couple of examples...
> >
> > * I bought a new 802.11b base station. Getting my TiPB online with it -
> > easy - turn on the laptop. That's it. OSX auto-finds the basestation,
> > reconfigures the OS's networking configs, all instantly and automagically.
> >
> > * I took a bunch of pictures with my Sony digital camera and I needed to
> > get them onto my computer. How do I do that with OSX? It was pretty tough
> > - not only did I have to turn on the laptop, but I also had to plug in the
> > camera's USB cable (I know, horribly complicated, eh? :). That's it - OSX
> > recognized the camera, mounted it as an external drive, placed an icon on
> > my desktop, launched the Image Capture app, and downloaded all my pics to
> > my Pictures folder - all automagically (remember, all I did was turn on
> > the laptop and plug in the camera).
> >
> > * I'm sitting at Coffee Plantation the other day and thought to myself,
> > "Self, wouldn't it be neat-o if I could get online with my cell phone
> > right now?" The obvious answer was "yes, that would be neat-o." What did I
> > have to do to accomplish this mess (my cell phone came with a PC data
> > cable). I plugged in my cell phone to my laptop. THAT'S IT! OSX recognized
> > the device and automatically figured out that it could act as a modem. I
> > clicked on the network connection icon, typed in my ISP's phone number,
> > typed in my username and password (OSX can't quite guess those things
> > automagically :), and clicked "Connect." A few seconds later, I'm
> > connected. No muss, no fuss.
> >
> > * Uh oh, someone emailed me a MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint document... now
> > what. Oh! I know! I double clicked it...that's it! Yes, like it or not, MS
> > Office controls the business world. And yes, MS Office runs NATIVE in OSX!
> >
> > * Now I want to "get my hands dirty" and open a Bash shell, launch Vi
> > (or Emacs, but I'm not into self-mutilation) and hack up a quick
> > shell/perl/python/ruby/whatever script and make it a cron job. Hey, no
> > problem! OSX is built on a FULL COMPLETE FreeBSD system. Not only that,
> > but you have total access to it. Bash? Yup. Cron? Yup. Python? Yup.
> > Sendmail? Yup. Apache? Yup. Vi? Yup. Pine? Yup. ls? Yup. grep? Yup. Bind?
> > Yup. MySQL? Yup. SSH(d)? Yup. I could go on forever...you get the point -
> > IT IS ALL THERE.
> >
> > * Although OSX has tons of commercial apps support (and more every day),
> > let's say I prefer Gimp to Photoshop. No problem there either. I can run
> > XFree86 at the same time (even interleaved with) the OSX GUI (Aqua /
> > Quartz). That's right - I can run almost all the XFree86 apps right there
> > NATIVE on OSX. Gnome? Yup. Abiword? Yup. StarOffice? Yup. Xeyes? Yup.
> > XTerm? Yup. GNUCash? Yup. TuxRacer? Yup. You get the point - they're all
> > there. Additionally, just like any other XFree86 implementation, I can run
> > XFree86 apps from my Linux box over the network on my OSX XFree86 server.
> >
> > * Just a side note, if you have used Linux for a while, no doubt you've
> > seen the "less than readable" fonts that some XFree86 apps like to
> > produce. Personally, I absolutely LOVE a good looking screen with
> > excellent fonts and readability. OSX borrowed an incredible point from
> > NeXT here - the entire GUI and rendering engine is all PDF. Everything is
> > antialiased, sharp, and super clean looking. Using OSX is great on my
> > eyes and REALLY is FUN and ENJOYABLE (is that sadistic?) to look at. It
> > really is a great experience to read documents/web
> > sites/email/usenet/etc... on OSX. Everything just looks georgeous.
> >
> > Did I mention that IT IS ALL THERE (full UNIX and seamless GUI and killer
> > apps) and that EVERYTHING just simply works? :) (Of course, the UNIX
> > system gives you the ability to do everything manually and "break" it if
> > you want to. All the power is there.)
> >
> > No question about it; OSX is geek paradise. Period. :)
> >
> > ~Jay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Kevin Brown wrote:
> >
> > > Don't know much about Macs either since almost all my exp is with Intel based
> > > hardware. I guess you wouldn't, but then again, I like a box where I can.
> > >
> > > > Maybe I just don't know anything about Macs, but, do you really upgrade them
> > > > that much?
> > >
> > > > > Very weird looking IMO. Probably runs OSX. Guess the nice thing is the
> > > > lack of
> > > > > wires coming out of it, but would probably not much in the way of internal
> > > > > upgrades do to the oddly shaped case.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you haven't seen the new iMac check it out... very cool!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.apple.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You maybe asking why I posted this on a Linux list. I run Debian Linux
> > > > > > on my powerbook along with Mac OS (Occasionally I do graphic design and
> > > > > > I'm too attached to all my fonts, Photoshop filters, and other personal
> > > > > > stuff that I'm not ready to deal with because I can't afford psychiatric
> > > > > > help... he he) Linux on a mac is very cool cause of the speed and
> > > > > > performance and I'm dying to run it on a G4...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also think OS X is not too bad either... but it's super slow and
> > > > > > crashes... but fun to play with...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyways check it out or don't...
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