How about sandscrit or ancient egyptian hyratic.
Lynn
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> 1. Virtual Machines... (David Verley)
> 2. Re: nat forwarding (Pee Kay)
> 3. foreign language text (Armin Hartinger)
> 4. Re: foreign language text (J.L.Francois)
> 5. Re: Virtual Machines... (Kevin Buettner)
> 6. Re: nat forwarding (Eric Richardson)
> 7. Re: Virtual Machines... (Pete Buechler)
> 8. Re: foreign language text (Pete Buechler)
> 9. Re: Looking for linux Guru (Tom Jones)
> 10. Pricing Error on Amazon (AZ_Pete)
> 11. The X(mas) Files] [NOT exactly linux related, but good for a
> laugh!] (Hawke)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:08:37 -0700
> From: David Verley <dverley@bigfoot.com>
> To: Phoenix Linux Users Group <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: Virtual Machines...
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Anybody out there have much experience with VMWare and/or Win4Lin? Wife
> has
> some windows apps and I have my games that I want to hang on to, but I'm
> looking forward to completely nuking Windoze.
>
> Also, anybody in the Mesa area that can burn off a copy of Mandrake 7.2?
>
> David
>
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>
> Message: 2
> From: "Pee Kay" <peekay@linuxmail.org>
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:09:08 +0800
> Subject: Re: nat forwarding
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Setting up nat and DHCP on the 675 if fairly easy. You can either log into
> it via telnet or use the console cable that came with it and minicom into
> it. The manuals that came with 675 are pretty straight forward in telling
> you how to set the NAT up but if you dont have those you can go here:
>
> http://www.ieng.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/c600s/c675/c675ino
> p/index.htm
>
> for all the information you need. The 675 actually has alot of cool
> features (even does port forwarding) and works really well.
>
> A couple things you might want to do while you are in there digging around
> is change the default passwords and also disable the http server. There is
> a DOS attack that will choke the 675's if the the http services are
> running.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Hasta
>
> P-K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rooster" <dbarker6@uswest.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:56:54 -0700
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: nat forwarding
>
>
> > someone had mentioned nat forwarding on one of the post here. anyone
> > know how to set that up on the cisco 675? i've got us pest service
> > for the dsl. how do i go about setting it so i can get inside?
> >
> > rooster
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:19:13 -0700
> From: Armin Hartinger <armin@pctechware.com>
> Reply-To: Armin Hartinger <armin@pctechware.com>
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: foreign language text
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Hello plug-discuss,
>
> I'm so tired of spammers. I was thinking of a petty little theme for
> some revenge. If they actually provide a reply-to address, I'd like to
> mail them back something like that:
>
> "Helo their,
>
> I am very interrested in purchesing your product, but mein Englisch is
> very bad. I am interrested in makking a large purchase, but lett me
> explain in my native language, <INSERT NATIVE LANGUAGE HERE>.
> "
>
> Here I'd follow a long text outlining what a bunch of a-holes etc...
> they are for spamming around etc... It would of course be my so-called
> "native" language. Shouldn't contain english words or internationally
> known curses. It SHOULD contain a large dollar number so it looks
> worth finding a translator of this "native" language.
>
> I could of course do it in german, as this would be my native
> language, but I thought of something more exotic.
> Someone can provide some insulting text in that theme in their native
> language? :)
>
> -Armin
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Armin mailto:armin@pctechware.com
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:51:15 -0700
> From: "J.L.Francois" <frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us>
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: foreign language text
> Reply-To: jlf@magusnet.gilbert.az.us
> Organization: MagusNet, Inc. Design * Develop * Integrate
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Why not use some of the fun web translators and run it thru:
>
> The Dialectizer: http://rinkworks.com/dialect/
>
> I prefer Swedish Chef myself :)
>
> JLF Sends...
>
> It seems like on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 06:19:13PM -0700, Armin Hartinger
> scribbled:
> Orig Msg> Hello plug-discuss,
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> I'm so tired of spammers. I was thinking of a petty little theme
> for
> Orig Msg> some revenge. If they actually provide a reply-to address, I'd
> like to
> Orig Msg> mail them back something like that:
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> "Helo their,
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> I am very interrested in purchesing your product, but mein
> Englisch is
> Orig Msg> very bad. I am interrested in makking a large purchase, but lett
> me
> Orig Msg> explain in my native language, <INSERT NATIVE LANGUAGE HERE>.
> Orig Msg> "
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> Here I'd follow a long text outlining what a bunch of a-holes
> etc...
> Orig Msg> they are for spamming around etc... It would of course be my
> so-called
> Orig Msg> "native" language. Shouldn't contain english words or
> internationally
> Orig Msg> known curses. It SHOULD contain a large dollar number so it
> looks
> Orig Msg> worth finding a translator of this "native" language.
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> I could of course do it in german, as this would be my native
> Orig Msg> language, but I thought of something more exotic.
> Orig Msg> Someone can provide some insulting text in that theme in their
> native
> Orig Msg> language? :)
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> -Armin
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg>
> Orig Msg> --
> Orig Msg> Best regards,
> Orig Msg> Armin mailto:armin@pctechware.com
> Orig Msg>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:03:07 -0700
> From: Kevin Buettner <kev@primenet.com>
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Virtual Machines...
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> On Dec 21, 4:08pm, David Verley wrote:
>
> > Anybody out there have much experience with VMWare and/or Win4Lin? Wife
> has
> > some windows apps and I have my games that I want to hang on to, but I'm
> > looking forward to completely nuking Windoze.
>
> I occassionally use VMWare. It works quite well, but is somewhat
> expensive. Also, by using VMWare, you aren't really getting rid
> of Windows. (But at least you won't need to reboot your linux
> box.)
>
> If you only have a few Windows apps that you need to run, you might
> see if they'll run under WINE.
>
> Kevin
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:02:54 -0700
> From: Eric Richardson <eric@milagrosoft.com>
> Organization: MilagroSoft Inc.
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: nat forwarding
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Pee Kay wrote:
> >
> > Setting up nat and DHCP on the 675 if fairly easy. You can either log
> into it via telnet or use the console cable that came with it and minicom
> into it. The manuals that came with 675 are pretty straight forward in
> telling you how to set the NAT up but if you dont have those you can go
> here:
>
> How do you telnet to it - I couldn't figure out the IP address cause it
> is in routing mode and I didn't think it had a IP address. I was able to
> use the serial port thanks to some help on this list
> >
> >
> http://www.ieng.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/c600s/c675/c675ino
> p/index.htm
> >
> > for all the information you need. The 675 actually has alot of cool
> features (even does port forwarding) and works really well.
> >
> > A couple things you might want to do while you are in there digging
> around is change the default passwords and also disable the http server.
> There is a DOS attack that will choke the 675's if the the http services
> are running.
> >
>
> I tried to do this a few days ago with no luck. I tried to set up the
> routin mode called "Configurationless provisioning" with DHCP Client and
> Server and NAT. I was using rfc1483 bridging mode to FastQ as my service
> provider.
>
> Do you have to set up a separate VCI channel for the DHCP request from
> the router to the service provider?
>
> Who is your service provider?
>
> I'd appreciate any help you could give. Perhaps your config file if you
> can figure out tftp. It has tons of cool features.
>
> Eric :-)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Pete Buechler <peterb@suse.com>
> Reply-To: peterb@suse.com
> Organization: SuSE, Inc.
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Virtual Machines...
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:29:44 -0700
> charset="us-ascii"
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> On Thursday 21 December 2000 06:03 pm, you wrote:
> > On Dec 21, 4:08pm, David Verley wrote:
> > > Anybody out there have much experience with VMWare and/or Win4Lin?
> > > Wife has some windows apps and I have my games that I want to hang
> > > on to, but I'm looking forward to completely nuking Windoze.
> >
> > I occassionally use VMWare. It works quite well, but is somewhat
> > expensive. Also, by using VMWare, you aren't really getting rid
> > of Windows. (But at least you won't need to reboot your linux
> > box.)
> >
> > If you only have a few Windows apps that you need to run, you might
> > see if they'll run under WINE.
> >
>
> VMware has come out with some $79.00 offer for Linux users who want to
> run Windows 95 or 98. Don't know other details, but they are at the
> vmware web site http://www.vmware.com
> --
> Pete Buechler
> Developer, SuSE Labs
> peterb@suse.com
> http://www.suse.com/~peterb
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: Pete Buechler <peterb@suse.com>
> Reply-To: peterb@suse.com
> Organization: SuSE, Inc.
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: foreign language text
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:31:24 -0700
> charset="us-ascii"
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> On Thursday 21 December 2000 06:19 pm, you wrote:
> > Hello plug-discuss,
> >
> > I'm so tired of spammers. I was thinking of a petty little theme for
> > some revenge. If they actually provide a reply-to address, I'd like
> > to mail them back something like that:
> >
> > "Helo their,
> >
> > I am very interrested in purchesing your product, but mein Englisch
> > is very bad. I am interrested in makking a large purchase, but lett
> > me explain in my native language, <INSERT NATIVE LANGUAGE HERE>. "
> >
> The only problem with this is that the spammers are often using some
> unsuspecting person's e-mail account to send out their crap. So yelling
> back just further upsets the victim.
>
> --
> Pete Buechler
> Developer, SuSE Labs
> peterb@suse.com
> http://www.suse.com/~peterb
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Tom Jones" <tjones@inficad.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: Re: Looking for linux Guru
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2094 22:38:00 -0700
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> If you're currently in El Paso, you may want to get on the Southern New
> Mexico Linux User Group (SNMLUG) mailing list. You can find it at:
> http://www.egroups.com/group/SNMlug
>
> It's not quite as busy as the PLUG list, but the last time I looked there
> were folks from El Paso and Las Cruces there. Tell Jody I sent you!
>
> TJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hdemetrio" <hdemetrio@uswest.net>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:53 AM
> Subject: Looking for linux Guru
>
>
> > Hello I am looking for a linux guru who doesn't mind having a new buddy
> > with them to feed off their knowledge.
> > I am looking for a friend to hang out with and learn from and maybe make
> > the next idea into a reality. I was a developer with interactcommerce
> and
> > did some PHP and MySQL work for them but was let go due to the project I
> > was working on was thrashed. Currently I am just teaching myself Perl
> and
> > working on a project for a trucking company in El Paso, Texas. My next
> > project will be a DJ system that based on Ogg Vorbis.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________
> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> >
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> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> From: "AZ_Pete" <az_pete@ieee-cas.org>
> To: "PLUG" <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: Pricing Error on Amazon
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:56:29 -0700
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: az_pete@ieee-cas.org
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Hi All,
>
> For those who may be interested I stumbled onto a pricing error on Amazon
> for the following book.
>
> Learning Perl/Tk: Graphical User Interfaces with Perl (O'Reilly Nutshell)
> by Nancy Walsh, Linda Mui
> ISBN: 1565923146
>
> The price is $3.49. Normally it's $34.99, it looks like someone
> transposed
> a decimal point. I only have a mild interest in Tk programming, but for
> 3.50 I ordered it. The order did go thru and the book is on the way.
> Thanks for the Christmas present Amazon!!
> Peter
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:08:16 -0700
> From: Hawke <proudhawk19021@home.com>
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: The X(mas) Files] [NOT exactly linux related, but good for a
> laugh!]
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> Mulder: We're too late. It's already been here.
>
> Scully: Mulder, I hope you know what you are doing.
>
>
> Mulder: Look, Scully, just like the other homes: Douglas fir,
> truncated,
> mounted, transformed into some sort of shrine. Halls decked with boughs
> of
> holly. Stockings hung by the chimney, with care.
>
> Scully: You really think someone's been here?
>
> Mulder: Someone or some THING.
>
> Scully: Mulder, over here! -- it's fruitcake.
>
> Mulder: Don't touch it! Those things can be lethal.
>
> Scully: It's okay. There's a note attached: "Gonna find out who's
> naughty
> and nice."
>
> Mulder: It's judging them, Scully. It's making a list.
>
> Scully: Who? What are you talking about?
>
> Mulder: Ancient mythology tells of an obese humanoid entity who could
> travel at great speed in a craft powered by antlered servants. Once
> each
> year, near the winter solstice, this creature is said to descend from
> the
> heavens to reward its followers and punish its disbelievers with jagged
> chunks of anthracite.
>
> Scully: But that's legend, Mulder-a story told by parents to frighten
> children. Surely, you don't believe it?
>
> Mulder: Something was here tonight, Scully. Check out the bite marks on
> this gingerbread man. Whatever tore through this plate of cookies was
> massive-and in a hurry.
>
> Scully: It left crumbs everywhere. And look, Mulder, this milk glass
> has
> been completely drained.
>
> Mulder: It gorged itself, Scully. It fed without remorse.
>
> Scully: But why would they leave it milk and cookies?
>
> Mulder: Appeasement. Tonight is the Eve, and nothing can stop its
> wilding.
>
> Scully: But if this thing does exist, how did it get in? The doors and
> windows were locked. There's no sign of forced entry.
>
> Mulder: Unless I miss my guess, it came through the fireplace.
>
> Scully: Wait a minute, Mulder. If you are saying some huge creature
> landed
> on the roof and came down the chimney, you're crazy. The flue is barely
> six inches wide. Nothing could get through there.
>
> Mulder: But what if it could alter its shape, move in all directions.
>
> Scully: You mean, like a bowl full of jelly?
>
> Mulder: Exactly. Scully, I've never told anyone this, but when I was a
> child my home was visited. I saw the creature. It had long white strips
> of
> fur surrounding its ruddy, misshapen head. Its bloated torso was red
> and
> white. I'll never forget the horror. I turned away, and when I looked
> back
> it had somehow taken on the facial features of my father.
>
> Scully: Impossible.
>
> Mulder: I know what I saw. And that night it read my mind. It brought
> me a
> Mr. Potato Head, Scully. IT KNEW I WANTED A MR. POTATO HEAD.
>
> Scully: I'm sorry, Mulder, but you're asking me to disregard the laws
> of
> physics. You want me to believe in some supernatural being who soars
> across the skies and brings gifts to good little girls and boys. Listen
> to
> what you are saying. Do you understand the repercussions? If this gets
> out, they'll close the X-files.
>
> Mulder: Scully, listen to me: It knows when you are sleeping. It knows
> when you're awake.
>
> Scully: But we have no proof.
>
> Mulder: Last year, on this exact date, S.E.T.I. radio telescopes
> detected
> bogeys in the airspace over twenty-seven states. The White House
> ordered a
> Condition Red.
>
> Scully: But that was a meteor shower.
>
> Mulder: Officially. Two days ago, eight prized Scandinavian reindeer
> vanished from the National Zoo in Washington, D.C. Nobody - not even
> the
> zookeeper - was told about it. The government doesn't want people to
> know
> about Project Kringle. They fear that if this thing is proved to exist,
> then the public would stop spending half its annual income in a holiday
> shopping frenzy. Retail markets will collapse. Scully,they cannot let
> the
> world believe this creature lives. There's too much at stake. They'll
> do
> whatever it takes to insure another silent night.
>
> Scully: Mulder, I-
>
> Mulder: Sh-h-h! Do you hear what I hear?
>
> Scully: On the roof. It sounds like . . . a clatter.
>
> Mulder: The truth is up there. Let's see what's the matter.
> The rest is up to your imagination :-)
>
>
>
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