Well I'm back... got in Monday evening.
I took the Thinkpad 760C with me and tried to get an Internet connection
set up for my friend. It turns out they are using SLIP rather than PPP
and I had no experience with that; but fortunately I had installed diald,
and it has SLIP support. What I didn't figure out was how to get it to
handle dynamic IP assignment. The SLIP protocol doesn't do this; but the
BelPak server, after prompting for login/password etc., would send a string
something like "your IP address is xx.xx.xx.xx" before going into SLIP
mode; and diald can supposedly parse such a string if you use the
"dynamic" feature. But since it was working, and worked repeatedly,
I thought maybe it was going to be a fixed IP after all. Nope... the
day after I left it quit working. Now another friend of my friend (who
is apparently also a Debian fan) is going to try to figure it out this
Saturday.
It also bothered me that I had to guess the "remote" address... as I
understand, the "local" address is the address assigned to the client
machine and the "remote" address is like a gateway, right? so that there
is a default gateway route to that address? well anyway it's not specified
in that string which comes back from the SLIP server, nor was it specified
in any of the documentation from the ISP, so I hope I guessed right, and
it doesn't ever change.
When it was working the output of ifconfig looked like this:
sl1 Link encap:Serial Line IP
inet addr:194.158.192.242 P-t-P:193.232.248.1 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2477 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2520 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:10
And it was incredibly slow. Waited 10 minutes or so for the slashdot
home page (with netscape reporting speeds around 100 bytes/sec), and it
never did completely load before I gave up. I needed to ftp a few Debian
packages, so used wget in infinite-retry mode and went to bed and let it
have a few hours to do it. apt-get was quite useless because the
connections kept timing out and it won't retry automatically.
BTW I'm building a web page about the trip at
http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud/journal/belarus/
but it's not all done yet... maybe in a few more days.
--
_______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud@bigfoot.com
(_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd@kb7pwd.ampr.org
__) | | \________________________________________________________________
From Don Harrop <
don@nis4u.com> Thu Dec 14 21:45:10 2000
From: Don Harrop <
don@nis4u.com> (Don Harrop)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:45:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: vnc
In-Reply-To: <
p04320400b65de00a2d71@[10.0.0.49]>
Message-ID: <
Pine.LNX.4.21.0012141441100.26620-100000@tech1.nis4u.com>
When you run vncserver on Xwindows it runs on display :1 if you already
have xwindows running. So you would have to type in the ip address then a
":" and then the display number vnc is running on.. example:
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1 if your running vnc on a windows box don't worry about
what I just told you.. :-) as far as not being able to access it from a
terminal window make sure your /usr/local/bin directory is in your
path. echo $PATH should let you know what's in your path. If it's not
in your path then you have to either add it or type the full path
name... /usr/local/bin/vncserver
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Rooster wrote:
> >
> >What, specifically, are you having problems with?
>
> well if i try to access the file from a terminal window, i get
> command not found. from the directory window in x i'm able to open it
> like a file and then there is folder inside. i moved the files it
> specifies to usr/local/bin as it specified. open vnc viewer and put
> in the ip address of the pc i wanted to connect to. but as soon as i
> hit enter it just blanks out the ip address and sits there doing
> nothing. i've downloaded the file twice and gotten the same results
> each time. checked permissions and those are fine. using static ip's
> on everyting here. anything else to check????
>
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From Don Harrop <
don@nis4u.com> Thu Dec 14 22:51:18 2000
From: Don Harrop <
don@nis4u.com> (Don Harrop)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:51:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: OpenBSD
In-Reply-To: <
66037540DA72D31180D400A0C9D17D1F46607C@phoenix1.exponent.com>
Message-ID: <
Pine.LNX.4.21.0012141550270.26620-100000@tech1.nis4u.com>
I know.. Some of those flames are unreal!
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Lucas Vogel wrote:
> I wish that kind of attitude would stream over into some of the freshmeat
> posters...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:45 AM
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: OpenBSD
>
>
> I have to concur with your statements.
>
> OpenBSD is very well engineered. They have the
> best man pages in the industry. Authors of most
> of the software are too paranoid to develop/release
> sloppy software.
>
> The Wolf
>
>
> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> From: Mike Starke [mailto:mgcon@neta.com]
> -> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:48 PM
> -> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> -> Subject: OpenBSD
> ->
> ->
> -> I know this is the linux list, but I have just installed
> -> OpenBSD, and I think I am hooked. I installed it a year
> -> or so ago for a standalone anon ftp server, never had a problems
> -> with it, but never spent much time on it.
> ->
> -> Just recently we have been having problems with our users
> -> dropping their connections to a remote Citrix server (Our ASP).
> -> They have always had the dropped connections after a random
> -> amount of time. I had always experienced dropped ssh connections,
> -> but I have always just delt with it. I know ipchains
> -> has a history of the ssh problem (others?), didn't want
> -> to get creative w/ipchains, so I thought I would give OpenBSD
> -> a try. I'm hooked. Never have I seen such outstanding man pages.
> ->
> -> ipf seems so much more intuitive than ipchains. ipnat was
> -> also a piece
> -> of cake.
> ->
> -> One question I do have before I get carried away with how
> -> much I enjoy
> -> BSD is this: Has anyone got Qmail and MySQL running under OpenBSD.
> -> I noticed qmail is available as a package, but I didn't see MySQL.
> -> Anyone have any tips they can offer.
> ->
> -> Hope the BSD thread isn't out of line here.
> ->
> -> Mike
> -> mgcon@getnet.com
> -> http://www.getnet.com/~mgcon
> -> Phoenix, AZ
> -> USA
> ->
> ->
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