Embedded Linux

You might want to try the Linux-from-scratch HOWTO or something similar if
you're truly adventurous. The best embedded demo I've ever received was the
one from QNX, but I don't believe theirs is Linux(though definitely *nix).

IMHO a DirectCD implementation is more of a pain than it's worth(see also in
this thread the part where someone discussed how their disk started
skipping/losing data at a certain temperature), especially when hard drives
are cheap.

Why make things harder than they have to be?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bret Lowry [mailto:warlock@ninjutsu.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 10:51 AM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Embedded Linux
>
>
>
> I'm interested in Embedded Linux also and am looking for more
> information on
> the subject other than information provided Corporate wierdos
> trying to market
> it . I'm looking for any kind of HowTos or tutorials on how
> to get started with
> it as well as any information as to how to go about making a
> small "personal
> Distro" but Compressed for smaller storage media.
> Also .....Anybody familiar with Direct CD.........? I think
> it would be nice to
> have Linux run off CD and at the same time be able to save to
> the disk Just
> like Direct CD does for Wincrap. But this would actually be
> running Linux from
> the CD and saving to CD.Anyone feel like starting a
> revolution! Oh wait
> .......Linux is the revolution!
> warlock@ninjutsu.org
>
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> > At 09:05 PM 10/25/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Darryl Tang wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Anyone doing anything with Embedded Linux? Included
> with the November
> > issue
> > >> of Linux Journal is the first issue of Embedded Linux
> Journal that talks
> > >> about the explosion of Linux in the embedded devices
> area. I want to learn
> > >> more about this and would appreciate hearing from
> persons in the area who
> > >> have an interest in embedded Linux or are working in it
> presently.
> > >
> > >It has been my desire for about three years now to have an
> MP3 player
> > >with several gigs of storage in a car... I had amassed the
> necessary
> > >hardware to build such a device when I moved to the phoenix area,
> > >here, I feel, magnetic storage may be a bit of a problem
> when in-trunk
> > >temperatures could easily reach 140F on the hottest days...
> >
> > I got to looking around recently, after hearing about PC104
> in articles for
> > a few years I finally looked up just what it is. And as
> soon as I started
> > seeing listings of PC104 cards and cases...
> >
> > What I'd love to see would be a nice embedded kit,
> something coming with a
> > small case and basic parts (including either a network
> card, or networking
> > built in on the main board). Something where you just add
> a processor,
> > memory and your choice of storage technology (3.5 or 2.5
> inch drive & a
> > floppy, solid state disk drive, ROM, whatever) and presto
> you've got a
> > small low power networkable box. Something either under
> $250-300 for the
> > basic parts, or still under $500 if it's including more parts.
> >
> > >I know for a fact (one I learned "the hard way") that CDR's are no
> > >solution to this problem either... I lost a couple of audio CDRs to
> > >being left in the car .. they would just skip more and
> more and more
> > >when I left them in the player. Eventually I realized what was
> > >happening, and havent had this problem since I started bringing
> > >everything inside with me. Normal CDs to not appear to erase
> > >themselves in these temperatures (120-140?), or, if they do, I have
> > >not experienced it in the short duration which my normal audio CDs
> > >were exposed to those temperatures. (the problem was
> DEFINITLY not one
> > >of exposure to sunlight, direct or indirect)
> >
> > I'd love to build something along the lines of a Sindwinder
> box, even if
> > it's coming out at twice the size that would still be a lot
> smaller than
> > even a mini-tower PC. And if it's low power (I saw on
> Ampro's web site a
> > small case designed for use as a Point Of Sale terminal,
> only a 60 watt
> > power supply) you could plug in several without worrying
> about the outlets
> > taking it.
> >
> > I just really like the idea though of having a couple of
> special purpose
> > tiny computers sitting on my desk. One acting ass a dial-up router,
> > another acting as a local web server (say Apache, Zope, and
> a couple of
> > scripting languages, and only what's needed to support
> them), one running
> > MySQL to learn about SQL with..
> >
> > Heh.
> >
> > At that rate I just spent several months free cash unless
> there's some
> > cheaper sources than I've found so far. Admittedly though
> I haven't been
> > serious enough about looking to search very hard - mostly
> it's just been
> > satisfying curiosity about what's out there.
> >
> > Though the last week or so I've been pondering the idea of
> building a
> > portable' computer. Not a laptop, but something reaching
> back to the style
> > of the early portable PC's. But a portable MP3 player
> would be nice too --
> > a suitcase with a couple small speakers, and a computer and
> say a salvaged
> > laptop LCD monitor for viewing the playlists.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Steven "Oh I just joined that sacred band of ''Those who
> have bleed for
> > their computers'' this week. My but a tiny scrape can make
> a thumb bleed,"
> > Martindale
> >
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