ouch.
"Furmanek, Greg" wrote:
>
> "Perhaps even more threatening is UCITA's role in establishing a liability
> baseline for software publishers. Consumer advocates note with dismay that
> the act's provisions free software publishers from any conceivable liability
> from defects in their code; however, you must use UCITA's provisions as a
> baseline in order to get this protection. Free software licenses such as the
> GPL may become meaningless after UCITA, exposing program authors to
> litigation. Since free software authors generally aren't wealthy, they will
> withdraw their products rather than face protracted litigation. UCITA may
> well have been designed from the get-go to eliminate the competitive threat
> from free software--a necessary step, since free software is winning in the
> marketplace."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 11:27 AM
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia
>
> Considering the swarm of new public companies that stake their livelihood on
> open-source software, do you really think that they'd make rules against it?
> I don't think that's what this new bill is, otherwise there'd be a lot more
> people than Ralph Nader(God bless that man!) protesting its inception into
> law.
> What I think the law IS saying is that companies like M$ will have a
> tighter grip over people that buy their products, and what they do with
> them. That's why it's referred to as a 'shrink-wrap' law.
>
> Lucas Vogel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of D.
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 12:16 PM
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia
>
> End result: All Free, GPL, Artistic and BSD-licensed code will
> suddenly become developed by "Anonymous." Go sue the Internet.
>
> So sad.
>
> D
>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Furmanek, Greg wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:32:35 -0500
> > From: "Furmanek, Greg" <Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com>
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'"
> <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia
> >
> > It makes developers liable for any code posted.
> > So if someone uses software developed by you
> > and looses money you are liable!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lucas7@home.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:20 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: UCITA passed in virginia
> >
> >
> > Doesn't this law only apply to licensed software? If so, what do GPL
> > users have to fear about? Or am I not getting it?
> >
> > David Demland wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand the feeling each of us may have. But do commits like this
> > help
> > > the cause? It would be better if we spent our time understand the bill
> as
> > it
> > > was submitted to our House of Rep. and what we can do to inform our
> > > political leaders about the impact of the bill. Two questions to
> remember
> > > about this 1 - What is the major goal and 2 - How do we achieve that
> goal?
> > >
> > > By the way does anyone have a copy of the bill or where I can get a copy
> > of
> > > the bill?
> > >
> > > Thank You,
> > >
> > > David Demland
> > > Qa / Testing Manager
> > > CADTEL Systems, Inc.
> > > 11201 N. Tatum Ste. 200
> > > Phoenix, AZ 85028
> > > (602) 953-4888
> > > FAX: (602) 953-4833
> > > ddemland@cadtel.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Furmanek, Greg <Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com>
> > > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> > > <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:50 AM
> > > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia
> > >
> > > >You also have to ask yourself:
> > > >How much politicians know about computers??
> > > >How much they got paid by M$??
> > > >How many more states are going to support it??
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Rooster [mailto:dwbarker99@earthlink.net]
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:40 AM
> > > >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > > >Subject: Re: UCITA passed in virginia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >well you've got to ask your self 2 things. 1. what does virginia know
> > about
> > > >computers? (everyone there i've dealt with needed major training, and
> 2.
> > > how
> > > >much were these people paid off for by m$?
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Robert Leonard" <robertbleonard@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:15 AM
> > > >Subject: UCITA passed in virginia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Looks like the ball is rolling, virginia passed UCITA unanimously.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ec/xml/00/02/14/000214ecucita.xml
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