Oracle's VirtualBox RANT
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Tue Nov 15 10:56:01 MST 2022
On 2022-11-15 10:49, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Thanks Bob!!
>
> - I am running VB 7.0
> - I accepted all the defaults when installing Ubuntu 20.04lts - that
> means DHCP.
> - There are no entries in the VP network menu: files->tools->network
> manger.
> - Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network
> is set to nat.
> - ip is 10.0.2.15/25
> - sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade both work
> - This is not my network, I am on 192.x.x.x
Hit send by accident.
Continues
- Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network
change nat to bridged adapter. It defaults to enp4s0 and enp3s0 is not
selected but available.
- now "ip a" shows ip as 192.168.1.111,
- can connect via ssh
- sudo apt update files:
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eith at plain-ubuntu20-lamp:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for keith:
Err:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease
503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]
Err:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease
503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]
Err:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease
503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]
Err:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease
503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.39 80]
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
18 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
W: Failed to fetch
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/InRelease 503 Service
Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]
W: Failed to fetch
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/InRelease 503
Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]
W: Failed to fetch
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-backports/InRelease 503
Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]
W: Failed to fetch
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-security/InRelease 503
Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.39 80]
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.
keith at plain-ubuntu20-lamp:~$
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Thanks for your help!!
Keith
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> On 2022-11-15 10:20, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem.
>> When I set up my virtual machines I use bridged networking and let
>> DHCP give out the address it should also tell the virtual machine the
>> route to the internet.
>>
>> What IP address are you getting when you have access to the internet,
>> and what address do you get when you're connected to the local
>> network?
>>
>> This just sounds like a routing issue
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's
>>> VirtualBox
>>> for web development testing.
>>>
>>> VirtualBox is a mess. I cannot get it to work for PHP testing. It
>>> will
>>> either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it
>>> visible
>>> to my local net and I am not able to pull in any packages.
>>>
>>> My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create
>>> a
>>> guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want
>>> to
>>> have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put
>>> that
>>> IP in my browser and do some testing.
>>>
>>> VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology. I've
>>> said it
>>> before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult.
>>> Case
>>> in point, last year I configured a full-stack host in my home
>>> office.
>>> This was complete with BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot. With a little
>>> studying Bind is doable. Postfix, and Dovecot on the other hand are
>>> total enigmas. I probably need to spend 30 or 40 hours to
>>> understand
>>> setting up and configuring Postfix, and Dovecot.
>>>
>>> I was able to get things to work, however I still do not know how.
>>>
>>> PHP is the same in my opinion. To be a PHP dev requires a large
>>> stack
>>> of technologies. I'm starting to feel the barrier to entry is too
>>> high.
>>> About 3 years ago I attended several AzPHP meetings and I was
>>> amazed to
>>> discover that the top programmers actually were embracing this level
>>> of
>>> complexity. There was one guy,who is accomplished, that actually
>>> looked
>>> down on anyone who was not at his level. Yikes!!
>>>
>>> I'm talking about things like Composer and dependency injection.
>>> Anyone
>>> know there is three ways to configure and use dependency injection.
>>> I
>>> do not recall all 3 off the top of my head.
>>>
>>> CodeIgniter 1 and 2 used dependency injection in a way that hid the
>>> complexities of dependency injection. It was so subtle that you
>>> don't
>>> even know you are implementing dependency injection.
>>>
>>> I really liked CodeIgniter 1 and 2. It hid the complexities of web
>>> development and was the closest thing I've seen in web development
>>> that
>>> was rapid application development (RAD).
>>>
>>> One of the things I really liked about CodeIgniter was it's
>>> simplicity.
>>> A middle school kid could learn enough about it in a weekend to
>>> start
>>> building something.
>>>
>>> Back to VirtualBox... It is entirely too complicated and I'm not
>>> sure
>>> why. Can anyone shed light on this?
>>>
>>> I read that everyone should learn how to program. Why? Programming
>>>
>>> itself is simple... doing anything remotely useful requires you get
>>> down
>>> into the mud of the complexities of building an application.
>>>
>>> I fell in love with programming at the UofA in 1983. I feel in love
>>>
>>> with Linux in 1998 when a friend told me about it. Yes I'm old. And
>>> I've
>>> seen a lot.
>>>
>>> What was VirtualBox created for and does it need to be so complex?
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
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