children of spectre

Bob Elzer bob.elzer at gmail.com
Thu May 3 14:46:10 MST 2018


For the Spectre problem, I think we need patch007-jb-hmss.exe

:-p


On Thu, May 3, 2018, 2:17 PM Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com> wrote:

> wonderful,
>
> All of this from a simple (and poorly thought out) design change back in
> the early 1990's.  This is why Apple is changing their hardware again (they
> are dumping Intel after spring of 2019).
>
> Right now, the problem I see with any software solution this problem is
> that there will always be some method to disable it, uninstall it or work
> around it.
>
> So, until Intel (and any  other hardware producer) changes this at the die
> level (on chip), issues like this will continue to crop up.
>
> -eric
>
> On May 3, 2018, at 9:11 AM, der.hans wrote:
>
> > moin moin,
> >
> > 8 new intel flaws set for announcement.
> >
> >
> https://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Exclusive-Spectre-NG-Multiple-new-Intel-CPU-flaws-revealed-several-serious-4040648.html
> >
> > At least one of the kids appears to be much worse than spectre.
> >
> > "an attacker could launch exploit code in a virtual machine (VM) and
> > attack the host system from there – the server of a cloud hoster, for
> > example. Alternatively, it could attack the VMs of other customers
> running
> > on the same server."
> >
> > "Intel's Software Guard Extensions (SGX), which are designed to protect
> > sensitive data on cloud servers, are also not Spectre-safe."
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
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