computer slow
Brien Dieterle
briend at gmail.com
Mon Oct 30 17:30:25 MST 2017
Well, those temperatures are not that hot, but that doesn't mean some
cooling wouldn't improve things.
Have you popped the case off and pointed a big fan in there and tried to
reproduce the crash yet?
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if
> it helps):
>
> $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +74.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.2°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +50.9°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +53.6°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +52.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +74.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.1°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +74.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +74.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +52.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +74.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +50.6°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +74.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +75.0°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1: +51.9°C (high = +70.0°C)
> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 30 mins is plenty for a test. Try to get sensors output just before a
>> crash
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with
>>>> cutting power was already diabled
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> $ sensors
>>>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>>> temp1: +68.0°C
>>>>>
>>>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>>> temp1: +45.1°C (high = +70.0°C)
>>>>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it
>>>>>> will just be annoying.
>>>>>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't
>>>>>> yet:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-t
>>>>>> emperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that
>>>>>> with fans and ventilation, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark
>>>>>>>> alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up
>>>>>>>> your case and point a fan in there.
>>>>>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events
>>>>>>>> that might be causing the shutdown/reboot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress.
>>>>>>>>> that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but
>>>>>>>>> a power failure outage,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>>>>>>> `
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forums.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it has nothing to do with darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down an hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature monitoring program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vm, 0 hdd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a gpu.... correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking all of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Michael Butash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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