Stallman was Right

[Stephen M]

Data will become available openly somehow.  Either by poor security from
the top down or from a drunk spur.  A program that does this isn't going to
make it harder or easier to get personal data in my humble option. Need to
start them young to care about privacy.  You don't need to be paranoid and
wear a tin foil head, though I read that actually amplifies brain waves.
You don't need to live as a hermit.  So bottom line your data is going to
get out no matter how hard you try.  Lets see what obscurity of privacy
looks like, have something in plane sight but not boast about it's
importance for the world to know.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com> wrote:

> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually justify
> those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, the more likely
> it is that they may be forced to give up and let us have more secure
> products.
>
> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA request
> to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then we could take
> them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create more secure linux
> devices. Then again, one can dream. :)
>
> -eric
> From the central office of the Technomage Guild
> special office: cyber security
>
> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
>
> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money
> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably compete
> against their tactics....
>
> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" <eric.oyen at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> OMFG!
>> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as usual.
>> Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have thought it to
>> be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was one such film:
>> swordfish!
>>
>> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would
>> rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security than
>> this.
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild.
>> Special office: cyber security.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>



-- 
Stephen Melheim
602-400-7707
SMelheim85 at gmail.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.phxlinux.org/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20170307/86d88f79/attachment.html>