H1B Visa

[Alan Dayley]

I hear "We struggle to find candidates" all the time. I don't hear "We are
creating, supporting and sustaining a system that creates candidates." In
the Fortune 500 and other large companies in which I work, investing in
training and in the people is extremely rare, no matter what the recruiters
and websites of the companies may say.

Part of the problem with H1B is that companies see such people and
outsourcing as a short cut to getting work done. They don't choose to
invest in growing the skills of employees. This is changing, though. More
and more companies are shifting away from contractors and to employees, as
step in the right direction. Such moves to make as many headlines.

Alan


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Eric Cope <eric.cope at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I may, the market determines your value. If another employer is willing
> to offer you more [money|vacation|benefits] then you may choose to switch
> employers. If someone is willing to offer your employer the same work for
> less [money|vacation|
> benefits], then why shouldn't they? To turn it around, what value do you
> provide over those foreign workers to warrant paying you more?
>
> Now, we can start using words like "entitled", but that, in my opinion, is
> just to invoke emotions and cloud the real topic.
>
> Finally, I can say that we use H1B at my employer (a semiconductor
> company) and we struggle to find candidates (analog circuit design) H1B or
> otherwise. We rarely factor in the salary because we struggle to find
> qualified candidates regardless of salary.
>
> just another perspective.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Keith Smith <techlists at phpcoderusa.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While at the polls I talked with a man running for Chandler City Council
>> who told me the H1B Visa was necessary because there are not enough
>> qualified Americans to fill those positions.
>>
>> I do not agree.  And if it is true then why, for example, is there no
>> Microsoft University that finds those with the talent and help develop them
>> into the qualified employee they are looking for?  It is my understanding
>> M$ is one of the biggest users of the H1B Visa program.
>>
>> This is an example of there not being an shortage.  -->>  McDonald's lays
>> off 70 American accountants from Ohio and gives their jobs to foreign
>> workers as part of cost-cutting exercise
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800381/McDonald-s-l
>> ays-70-American-accountants-Ohio-gives-jobs-foreign-workers-
>> cost-cutting-measure.html
>>
>> --
>> Keith Smith
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