To Tux or not to Tux

Stephen Partington cryptworks at gmail.com
Tue Apr 19 10:04:00 MST 2016


only issue i have ever had was an argument between Ubuntu and windows about
UEFI. one or the other works fine.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Wayne D <waydavis at centurylink.net> wrote:

>
>
> On 04/19/2016 08:39 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:18:49 -0700
>> Wayne D <waydavis at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>> The EXISTING scenario:  Win 7 machine with stability issues that are
>>> most likely due to a combination of gremlins that this user attracts
>>> like dust to a mop over a period of 6 to 9 months of use.  Data
>>> corruption is a possibility, Virii and other nasties  are most likely
>>> lurking as well.  I suspect MUCH of it has been a result of internet
>>> activity.
>>>
>>
>> But, unless you've done more tests than you mention here, the cause
>> could be bad caps, or a bad RAM stick, or iffy disk drive, or an
>> intermittent connection, or a single bad OS config setting, or
>> temperature problems caused by the excessive dust you mention. Except
>> for bad caps, these things could be fixed without purchasing a new
>> machine, and if the current machine has kvm capability, you can still
>> implement the software strategy you mention.
>>
>
> It has had problems since day one apparently.  MY fix for the old box,
> which will become his emergency fall-back- machine is to install a monster
> cpu cooler in it and upgrade all the fans in it.
>
> By the way, what I do every time I set a tower computer on the floor,
>> is I set it on a 10" blank 3 or 4 inches higher than the floor, to
>> lessen acquisition of carpet-dust.
>>
>
>
> THAT is actually a part of the issue - the machine's location IS in a
> space that could recirc some of the air.  THAT is going to stop.
>
> It's a 4 core machine and the user is not happy with the speed AND
>>> has complained of heat issues.
>>>
>> >
>>
>>> MY solution:  Build a a new HYBRID machine that hardware for hardware
>>> is a updated clone of my own primary machine.  Based on LinuxMINT
>>> 17.3 Cinnamon and run win10 inside a VM for those apps that require
>>> it and run chrome or Firefox for the web based stuff from the Linux
>>> side..   Backups via clonezilla and copies of the vm file.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds good to me. I'd recommend Qemu rather than Virtualbox for the VM.
>>
>
>
> HMM, qemu???   Never heard of, or used it.   WHY is it better than
> virtualbox?
>
>
> Alternate is to run pure win10 with ACRONIS for backup.
>>>
>>
>> You could also run a VM guest for Mint on the Windows computer.
>>
>
> I never considered that, only because it makes the core OS the one that is
> vulnerable to attack.
>
>
> The new machine will consist of:
>>> ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 8 x SATA 6GB/s USB
>>> 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS (MILITARY GRADE MB)
>>>
>>
>> I'm not a fan of UEFI boot. Does this mobo have legacy boot so that you
>> can boot to an MBR? On my box I boot to a 256GB SSD, with big >2TB
>> spinning disks mounted on mountpoints on the SSD. MY /usr
>> and /usr/local are on SSD, so they're fast, but there's very little
>> write activity on my SSD. It's fast, and it's been running well for
>> about a year.
>>
>> Some day UEFI might be good, but right now you hear too much about
>> people bricking their mobos via interaction with their OS and the UEFI
>> storage area, or Linux people doing rm -rf only to find out that
>> included the mounted UEFI variable area.
>>
>> And then there's the whole Secure Boot fiasco. No problem if you use a
>> major Linux that's purchased a key from Microsoft, but all bets are off
>> if you compile your own kernel.
>>
>
>
> You really know how to pee on a parade... LOL   Ya, I'm cringing a little
> over this one.
>
>
>
> If I were going to get this case, I'd splurge for the optional 2nd
>> 120mm top fan, and the optional 120mm front fan, and probably tape over
>> the fan mount on the left side. And of course I'd mount my hard drives
>> where the front fan blows on them, and try to keep distance between
>> them.
>>
>>
> Ya, I have three 120mm Noctua's in the build.   (I) am using the same
> setup but with a Arctic Freezer Xtreme Rev 2
> I ran eight instances of BurnK6 loading all cores to 100%.   78 room temp,
> got to 122 and NO HIGHER on the cpu. A HUGE difference from the stock AMD
> fan setup.
>
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Stephen
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