<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">only issue i have ever had was an argument between Ubuntu and windows about UEFI. one or the other works fine.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Wayne D <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:waydavis@centurylink.net" target="_blank">waydavis@centurylink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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On 04/19/2016 08:39 AM, Steve Litt wrote:<br>
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:18:49 -0700<br>
Wayne D <<a href="mailto:waydavis@centurylink.net" target="_blank">waydavis@centurylink.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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The EXISTING scenario: Win 7 machine with stability issues that are<br>
most likely due to a combination of gremlins that this user attracts<br>
like dust to a mop over a period of 6 to 9 months of use. Data<br>
corruption is a possibility, Virii and other nasties are most likely<br>
lurking as well. I suspect MUCH of it has been a result of internet<br>
activity.<br>
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But, unless you've done more tests than you mention here, the cause<br>
could be bad caps, or a bad RAM stick, or iffy disk drive, or an<br>
intermittent connection, or a single bad OS config setting, or<br>
temperature problems caused by the excessive dust you mention. Except<br>
for bad caps, these things could be fixed without purchasing a new<br>
machine, and if the current machine has kvm capability, you can still<br>
implement the software strategy you mention.<br>
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It has had problems since day one apparently. MY fix for the old box, which will become his emergency fall-back- machine is to install a monster cpu cooler in it and upgrade all the fans in it.<span class=""><br>
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By the way, what I do every time I set a tower computer on the floor,<br>
is I set it on a 10" blank 3 or 4 inches higher than the floor, to<br>
lessen acquisition of carpet-dust.<br>
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THAT is actually a part of the issue - the machine's location IS in a space that could recirc some of the air. THAT is going to stop.<br>
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It's a 4 core machine and the user is not happy with the speed AND<br>
has complained of heat issues.<br>
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MY solution: Build a a new HYBRID machine that hardware for hardware<span class=""><br>
is a updated clone of my own primary machine. Based on LinuxMINT<br>
17.3 Cinnamon and run win10 inside a VM for those apps that require<br>
it and run chrome or Firefox for the web based stuff from the Linux<br>
side.. Backups via clonezilla and copies of the vm file.<br>
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Sounds good to me. I'd recommend Qemu rather than Virtualbox for the VM.<br>
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HMM, qemu??? Never heard of, or used it. WHY is it better than virtualbox?<span class=""><br>
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Alternate is to run pure win10 with ACRONIS for backup.<br>
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You could also run a VM guest for Mint on the Windows computer.<br>
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I never considered that, only because it makes the core OS the one that is vulnerable to attack.<span class=""><br>
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The new machine will consist of:<br>
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 8 x SATA 6GB/s USB<br>
3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS (MILITARY GRADE MB)<br>
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I'm not a fan of UEFI boot. Does this mobo have legacy boot so that you<br>
can boot to an MBR? On my box I boot to a 256GB SSD, with big >2TB<br>
spinning disks mounted on mountpoints on the SSD. MY /usr<br>
and /usr/local are on SSD, so they're fast, but there's very little<br>
write activity on my SSD. It's fast, and it's been running well for<br>
about a year.<br>
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Some day UEFI might be good, but right now you hear too much about<br>
people bricking their mobos via interaction with their OS and the UEFI<br>
storage area, or Linux people doing rm -rf only to find out that<br>
included the mounted UEFI variable area.<br>
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And then there's the whole Secure Boot fiasco. No problem if you use a<br>
major Linux that's purchased a key from Microsoft, but all bets are off<br>
if you compile your own kernel.<br>
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You really know how to pee on a parade... LOL Ya, I'm cringing a little over this one.<span class=""><br>
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If I were going to get this case, I'd splurge for the optional 2nd<br>
120mm top fan, and the optional 120mm front fan, and probably tape over<br>
the fan mount on the left side. And of course I'd mount my hard drives<br>
where the front fan blows on them, and try to keep distance between<br>
them.<br>
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Ya, I have three 120mm Noctua's in the build. (I) am using the same setup but with a Arctic Freezer Xtreme Rev 2<br>
I ran eight instances of BurnK6 loading all cores to 100%. 78 room temp, got to 122 and NO HIGHER on the cpu. A HUGE difference from the stock AMD fan setup.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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