Times to move to Linux

[Stephen]

yes there is, Unplug your machine form the internet.


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:

> Keith,
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> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>wrote:
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>> Are you saying a move to Linux is of no use? No firewalls to keep them
>> out?
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> Well, the NSA has access to:
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> 0) Data tracking that allows them to:
> fingerprint your layer 7 applications
> fingerprint your layer 1-3 applications
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> Large databases provide all manner of cross-checks on your "habits":
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> Encryption(s) are mostly broken, so they can access any data they collect.
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> Akamai caching provides a great deal of information that can also be
> cross-checked to provide more complete data from bank data and other high
> level authentication to ensure that you are who they think you are.
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> NSA has various taps in place around the world that show source and
> destination and/or cookies.
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> 1) Encroachment to most individuals or small business via OSI layer:
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> Layer 1 up:
> It's trivial to own/tap (without a Warrant) your DSL (cable) or ADSL
> (Century 21) -- then on to your router (DD-WRT, Netgear, Cisco, Asus) -
> quickly.
>
> Layer 7 down:
> It's trivial to send you a PDF or Javascript Browser Exploitation BEef
> hook and walk through your systems (similar to Logmein or Hamachi).  There
> are agents that can be delivered via email (Kaseya or LivePerson) and J2EE
> exploits that can be launched easily = opening you wide.
>
> Believe me, in this day and age, there is NO AWAY and no keeping THEM OUT.
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> 2) Survellience technology continues from all your expenditures, all your
> travel (license plate readers), and your phone behaviors, and can include
> remote viewing (without camera technology you would recognize).
>
> But sure.  Go ahead and keep them out, I dare you!
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>> Keith Smith
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>> --- On *Mon, 6/24/13, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>* wrote:
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>> From: Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
>> Subject: Re: Times to move to Linux
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>> Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 6:45 PM
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>> Hi Guys,
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>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:21 PM, kitepilot at kitepilot.com<http://mc/compose?to=kitepilot@kitepilot.com>
>> <kitepilot at kitepilot.com <http://mc/compose?to=kitepilot@kitepilot.com>>wrote:
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>> I don't question the need to move to Linux and I don't doubt that the guv
>> spies on us, but this article sounds pretty lame...
>> My opinion.
>> We all know about opinions...
>> ET
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>> keith smith writes:
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>> I think it is time to move everything to Linux.  According to this
>> article the NSA has had a backdoor to Windows since 95.
>> http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/**nsa-has-total-access-via-**
>> microsoft-windows/<http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-has-total-access-via-microsoft-windows/>
>> I seem to recall Ubuntu had/has some sort of backdoor also.
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>> Keith Smith
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>> The NSA has backdoors into everything with a variety of technologies.
>>  Believe it, nothing is sacred, if they want to know all about you, there
>> are a great many "doors".
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