About Michael Havens, the list and the people...

[Stephen]

Google can find a wealth of information, but there is no guaruntee about
applicable nature or accuracy. however i think it is a great place to start
and fine tune the questions you need to ask. and for me that is what i mean
about previous research.


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, James Mcphee <jmcphe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can understand the frustration of being asked easily searchable
> questions.  There wouldn't be a "Let Me Google That For You" site if it
> wasn't common.
>
> I also know that just because google says to do something, doesn't mean
> it's the right way.  So even if the thing I'm doing is basic, and google
> has readily-available answers, I will still ask for opinions.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good thoughts all.  My feeling is that Mike has come a long way from
>> where he started and explores many things that most folks would never
>> touch.
>>
>> It is amazing to me that he does some of the projects he tackles and
>> still asks so many "simple" questions.  I may not answer as many of those
>> as a I should but there are also questions he asks that I cannot answer
>> even if I do some researching.  So I do learn from some of his threads if I
>> follow them through to an answer.  And that is what it is all about.
>>
>> Oh, and one thing Mike does that I wish more people would do is to
>> usually post the solution even when he finds it himself or as a result of
>> an answer that someone gave.
>>
>> I do sometimes wonder if there are people who object just because Mike is
>> the most prolific user of this list.  Good on you Mike.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom <
>> jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The point of a LUG is to get people interested in Linux and build
>>> skills. This is why you have install days etc.  I work daily with people
>>> who don't want to use Linux but have to on their servers. Linux is an
>>> acquired taste for some. My wife and kids had to be taught to love it after
>>> my 5th time reinstalling their computer because they hosed windows.
>>>
>>> Google is like common sense. Everyone has access and should contain a
>>> small amount of knowledge in using it. Fact a good chunk of my day is spent
>>> working as a google proxy for others. People lack common sense and the
>>> ability to type a few words in to google. The flip side of that is knowing
>>> how to read results. Sometimes the first, second forth page of google is
>>> irreverent or is the 1200th person asking a question and no one has an
>>> answer.  I consider my self a professional google user. It is 1/2 my world.
>>> I have recently started burrowing in to python and some things (yum) are
>>> documented by a 3 year old or not at all so you have to turn to other
>>> resources. I am happy to say even when I ask something I know is reaaaaaaly
>>> dumb the python folks have been pretty awesome to me.
>>>
>>> tl;dr  Lugs try to attract people, these people likely know nothing,
>>> asking a community like this sometimes yields higher quality results than
>>> searching.  You should be happy they asked rather than moving on, teach
>>> them to fish.
>>> tl;dr for tl;dr Be excellent to each other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James Finstrom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>> Rusty.Carruth at smartstoragesys.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As much as I hate 'me too' replies, in this case I think its warranted,
>>>> so here goes:
>>>>
>>>> Well said, thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Rusty
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > ....
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree that you are free to block Mike if you wish, but I disagree
>>>> > with anyone publicly stating 'Mike is so dumb that we should kick him
>>>> > out'
>>>> > because that express and undeserved and ignorant judgement and narrows
>>>> > the limits of those willing to participate in this list.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't block Mike, although I don't always answer.
>>>> > And I have the utmost respect for him.
>>>> > Mike, please don't leave this list.
>>>> > Enrique A. Troconis
>>>>
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