-- SPAM --Re: -- SPAM --Re: all mail marked as spam

Lisa Kachold lisakachold at obnosis.com
Tue Dec 4 18:20:08 MST 2012


Robert,

Take this up with Cox.

They should point you in the right direction.

I have cox and use a mail forwarder directly to Google to send and receive
messages with postfix and sendmail.

I don't use my cox mail at all.


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Robert Holtzman <holtzm at cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 06:07:07PM -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote:
> > Robert,
> >
> > This looks like a cox mail to gmail issue.
> >
> > It could be flagged as spam because either the sending IP or local IP is
> > dynamic (spamassasin flags for that depending on the rulesets of their
> MTA).
> >
> > While I don't see your mail setup with Google Apps or referenced here, it
> > appears that this message is attempting to send through Google Apps to a
> > non-associated google apps or cox address.
>
> I saw the google entry in the headers and couldn't understand how it got
> there because I would eat broken glass before I would have anything to
> do with them.
>
> >
> > I believe the part of interest is:
> >
> > X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
> >  d=google.com; s=20120113;
> >  h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
> >  :content-type:x-gm-message-state;
> >  bh=AAo5RQiI59RpuvyOU7wZOWszZiTwq0RDJOowLhi/QZY=;
> >  b=asoTa8iyYwDDpnQ5ZZZmTR5imzoVQWKcR9l4PXThqjRNUeN8Qum2l1WItR4r0bZgmB
> >  b7lgcfaCWVObXD710eC9avn0d/+LemN6Q5+jdgScKtkRK1SbL7R/ICKdlymznw3TnLj9
> >  iRmIjM+YHsYy5feWLfnJ7WC/p6oPDDYZTjgsAfysYWNR6+aOKXjxGEkyQxqvuaQpeu6f
> >  /np3T/35TGv8m04SkpvfwXml43beG50Drvv1TyKmvnqn9nr71ZRVxEVr+3yr2TnUsb/a
> >  qdgHImjspCxHiecAvtAnWPABc13okKs91tRJWwqQ8Fik1JMItP+14PbrQQC3abJpkF7e
> >  LgKw==
>
> Messages prior to this spam marking problem show this header and, I just
> discovered, some messages marked as spam don't. Looks like you might be
> able to scratch that off the list of clues.
>
> >
> > Thats a gmail entry DKIM value.
> >
> > You can also fully integrate with Google Apps, rather than go directly to
> > cox (which it looks like you are doing), however you must use alternate
> > ports because cox doesn't allow SMTP mail to traverse their network.
>
> For shame, you've confused an old man. If they don't allow SMTP traffic,
> how
> am I sending mails?
>
> The only thing I would do with Google anything is ignore it/them.
>
> > Did your upgrade overwrite your mail gateway configuration?
>
> I'm too ignorant to tell. Pointer please? No other mail from all other
> lists and individuals has this problem. Only mail from this list.
>
> --
> Bob Holtzman
> If you think you're getting free lunch,
> check the price of the beer.
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