ot Online school

Thu Aug 9 00:10:49 MST 2012

virtual machine! why didn't I think of that. What are the minimum memory
requirements for 7. (I don't have XP but I do have 7)
:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Michael Butash <michael at butash.net> wrote:

> Just FYI, consulting and being aatround random shops with customer and
> vendor docs, I find a lot of the .pptx, docx, or xlsx files are spotty at
> best what works under linux, what works sanely (complex forumlas==poop),
> and what just crashes openoffice.  Libreoffice is almost useless with the
> new formats, as the dev's don't feel they need to support microsoft's
> continued forced incompatibility with everyone else on purpose (can't blame
> them either).  Obviously M$ doesn't care, as most people just keep buying
> office when microsoft tells them to every few years to stay "compatible"
> with their own poop.
>
> I keep an xp vm in virtualbox for this reason at all times, generally with
> real office (well, as real as usenet gets for clean slipstream install
> images), just to make sure if I *have* to resort to exporting from it to
> something I can use (2000-03 compat office formats). Seamless mode under
> linux i found finally works decently, reduces the sting of using windows
> significantly and hides it to keep my linux desktop cred.  ;)
>
> Likewise creating complex formatted docs are horribly incompatible usually
> under real m$office from libre/openoffice, so export as pdf is your friend
> when passing back and forth to windoze users.
>
> Really sucks it has to be this way - thanks microsoft.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 08/08/2012 11:28 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Its cool.... I was surprised they specified an OS as well.  but the
>> university of Minnesota seems more willing to work with me. This is what
>> they said (in part):
>>
>> Firefox or Chrome for Linux should work fine for Moodle. Open Office for
>> Linux saves as Word and in other MS compatible formats. We also have
>> Google Docs as a University implementation so you can use those online
>> apps.
>>
>> As long as you can view the following types of files you should be able
>> to access most anything in the courses:
>>
>>   * Video
>>       o .mp4, .wmv, Flash (flv or swf),
>>   * Word Processing
>>       o .docx, .doc (may require a document viewer for .docx)
>>   * PowerPoint
>>       o .pptx, .ppt (may require a document viewer for .pptx)
>>   * PDF
>>   * Excel
>>       o occasionally .xlst, .xls
>>   * Web browser (Chrome or Firefox may be the best choices, you are
>>
>>     welcome to try others)
>>
>> As Mark mentions, the only course we have that is geared specifically to
>> a Microsoft product is Spreadsheets (CA 1020) but if you want to take
>> that course and can accomplish the tasks without the Windows based
>> interface tutorials and save the files as .xls, we'll get you into the
>> section (different instructors) where you will not be required to use MS
>> Office.
>> SO I think I'll be paying them for my degree!
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Harold Wong <Harold.Wong at microsoft.com
>> <mailto:Harold.Wong at microsoft.**com <Harold.Wong at microsoft.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>     I’m surprised that the online school is requiring you to run a
>>     specific OS.  With that said, if you really need Windows 7 for
>>     school and want to continue to use Linux as your main OS, I would
>>     recommend virtualizing it as that would be much simpler.____
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>>     Not to be fatalistic, but you're probably going to have a hard time
>>     finding a university that isn't very MS-happy.____
>>
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>>
>>     Installing on an external hard drive is problematic at best. I'm
>>     pretty sure Windows protects against that. Licensing/piracy
>> reasons.____
>>
>>
>>     On 8 August 2012 10:56, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>>
>>
>>     they want $305/credit hour. Is that the going rate for a University
>>     now a days? I think I'm going to go with a school that isn't so in
>>     bed with MS. UMN is  not in bed with em.____
>>
>>
>>     or else.... coulde I out it on an external HD?
>>     :-)~MIKE~(-:____
>>
>>
>>
>>     ____
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>>     On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:cryptworks at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>>
>>
>>     the pert i left out is if you install windows to the drive that has
>>     Linux on it. even if you re-size the drives to make space it will
>>     overwrite grub, and you will need to re-install and reconfigure it.
>>     alternative install win7 in KVM or virtualbox.____
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:cryptworks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>      > well personally if you can just install to a new drive then you can
>>      > have it pristine and configure grub...
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>      >> I need to put 7  back on my computer for school. How do you do
>>     it w/o
>>      >> blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). I also
>>     need to
>>      >> repartition. How big does it need to be for 7?
>>      >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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