OT; phone argument

[Nathan England]

This is, in my opinion, a really good response. I do not trust Google
much, but I also look as them as a company that is going to use what
they can of mine to make money. So in a sense I trust them because I
know what they are going to do. I have an HTC Hero that I put
Cyanogenmod on about two weeks after I got it and loved it. Now, I have
finally upgraded to a new Galaxy S and I setup my Hero for my daughter
to use as a handheld game system. I wiped the phone, installed
Cyanogenmod and never logged into a Google account. The phone is
completely usable and has not a single Google app on it. Of course, I
needed some apps for my daughter, so I put the Amazon market on it for
some of the games I have purchased, then I added the Google stuff for
the market apps that amazon does not have.

My point is, the phone was fully usable with amazon market and NO GOOGLE
dependencies at all.

Purchase a phone that is listed on the hardware compatibility list of
Cyanogenmod and flash the phone if you are really worried. Either way, I
would trust Google a LOT more than Apple. With their creative force
gone, they are going to fall back into the "let's make money the only
way a corporate structure knows how" mode and begin selling off personal
data and suing everyone in sight. Granted they supposedly have 4 years
worth of new products, I bet they put them all out in a year!

Nathan


On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 17:04 -0600, Kevin Fries wrote:
> I may be a little gullible but I look at it this way: 
> 
> As evil empires go, Google has been far less oppressive than the
> alternatives.
> 
> Google cornered a market, turned it into a bunch of products designed
> to make them money by selling you tools to make money also.  They
> invest huge sums of money in new product development through a yearly
> program called Summer of Code.  And what these people develop they get
> to keep and market.  They developed an OS for portable devices and
> gave it away... mostly.  Let be honest, these guys are not saints, but
> they appear to see your success as the key to there success.
> 
> Apple is also very keen in innovation.  But they have just lost their
> creative key.  Even with him, they held everything very close to their
> wallet.  Apple went to war with anyone developed apps that Apple
> wanted to develop, people that tried getting around their app store,
> and anyone making comparable equipment.  Apple seems to see you as
> able to make money, only when they can lock you into a license, and
> keep you controlled.
> 
> So, as evil empires go... I for one is far less afraid of Google than
> I am of Apple.
> 
> Just my $0.02
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Oct 22, 2011 4:40 PM, "betty" <nicepenguin at webcanine.com> wrote:
>         I know this is totally OT but am asking here because you are
>         all -younger than me and know more about this stuff, and like
>         me, - like the philosophy of open source.
>         
>         Not that either of these choices is open source but here is
>         the question; I currently use a palm Pre and have used palm
>         for many years. If by next year someone doesn't pick up webOS
>         I will want to choose between an android and an iphone. I lean
>         toward android because it is NOT an apple product. But my son,
>         who is your age, i imagine, has an iphone and says he doesn't
>         trust google with his contacts etc.
>         I don't trust anyone but that is beside the point, it is a
>         fact of life of the internet that there is no real security.
>         Besides what is to trust more with apple than google?
>         What part of the argument am i missing here?
>         Thanks for your input.
>         
>         i use my phone in my businesses and personal life.  i use it
>         for tracking for taxes and calendar. i use it when i drive a
>         lot. i am so sad that hp gave up on web OS.
>         thank you
>         
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