visualization question

[Bryan O'Neal]

It is free as in beer. Player and sever are both free. They are on the
website. You do have to register the number of licenses you want to an
email address but they do not spam you.
If you want to automatically balance containers across a federated
server farm or if you want to take a snapshot every few min for
instantaneous rollback or if you want to branch vm's and synchronize
down stream systems then you are going to pay quite a bit. But my
guess is if you need that you can probably afford it.

On 5/8/11, Dan Lund <situationalawareness at gmail.com> wrote:
> so... does VMWare server do bridging?
> The free as in beer version on the vmware website that is?
>
> I only ask because of vmware being brought up.  When the disclaimer ""only
> limited by the admin tools and custom hardware options" came about, I
> figured it'd be best to clarify :)
>
> I personally like Parallels, but I've only used it on Mac.
>
> --Dan
>
> On May 8, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
>
>> VMWare Player is free-as-in-beer, but it only *runs* the virtual machine.
>> You generally need some other tool to *create* the virtual machine, and
>> for anything other than relatively simple use, the administrative controls
>> in VMWare Player are very limited.
>> For more control, and the ability to create virtual machines most people
>> end up purchasing VMWare Workstation, which is around $70 at retail last I
>> checked.
>>
>> For advanced administrative options (particularly for complex requirements
>> and/or large numbers of virtual machines on multiple servers), the VMWare
>> enterprise tools are generally needed, and those get very costly.
>>
>> The primary advantage of VirtualBox is that it is both free-as-in-beer and
>> free-as-in-freedom (the open source edition, virtualbox-ose), and the
>> tools to manage it are included.
>> VirtualBox is great for running a few occasional VM's on a well-equipped
>> home computer.
>>
>> For more advanced and complex environments (such as large corporate VM
>> deployments), F/LOSS software is still playing a bit of catch-up with
>> VMWare enterprise tools, but it's getting there.
>> For Hybrid (i.e. private/public) cloud deployments F/LOSS is actually way
>> ahead of the proprietary alternatives, but that's also an area large
>> enterprises are just starting to explore.
>>
>> On 05/08/2011 12:00 AM, Dan Lund wrote:
>>> Forgive me for being pedantic on this one, but... what do you mean by
>>> limited by the admin tools and custom hardware options?
>>> (I'm not being a butt about this, it just kinda folded into itself when
>>> you said that)
>>>
>>> --Dan
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Absolutely. It is limited only by the admin tools and custom hardware
>>>> options.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/7/11, Dan Lund <situationalawareness at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Does the free version of vmware have bridging?
>>>>> Last I used vmware outside of ESXi and vSphere was like 2005.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vmware is free and very effective. Just saying...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/7/11, Judd Pickell <pickell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> vbox does support bridging and is needed to solve the problem
>>>>>>> mentioned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:50 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably set up IP as NAT, or internal.  Does vbox do bridged IPs?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Setup vbox on XP loaded CentOS 5.6 set IP different than host.  Can
>>>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>>>> IP of vertual server from command line of self.  Cannot ping from
>>>>>>>>> outside.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- On *Sat, 5/7/11, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: visualization question
>>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
>>>>>>>>> <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can use either virtualbox or vmware and it will work, just set
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> networking so that it has an IP on your physical network for simple
>>>>>>>>> access.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, keith smith
>>>>>>>>> <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm running XP on a dell box and was wondering if I can install
>>>>>>>>> visualization on top of that, install CentOS, and have both running
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same time with the XP being a client and the CentOS being a LAMP
>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to access the docroot crom the XP box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this possible?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
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