visualization question

[Joseph Sinclair]

VMWare Player is free-as-in-beer, but it only *runs* the virtual machine.
You generally need some other tool to *create* the virtual machine, and for anything other than relatively simple use, the administrative controls in VMWare Player are very limited.
For more control, and the ability to create virtual machines most people end up purchasing VMWare Workstation, which is around $70 at retail last I checked.

For advanced administrative options (particularly for complex requirements and/or large numbers of virtual machines on multiple servers), the VMWare enterprise tools are generally needed, and those get very costly.

The primary advantage of VirtualBox is that it is both free-as-in-beer and free-as-in-freedom (the open source edition, virtualbox-ose), and the tools to manage it are included.
VirtualBox is great for running a few occasional VM's on a well-equipped home computer.

For more advanced and complex environments (such as large corporate VM deployments), F/LOSS software is still playing a bit of catch-up with VMWare enterprise tools, but it's getting there.
For Hybrid (i.e. private/public) cloud deployments F/LOSS is actually way ahead of the proprietary alternatives, but that's also an area large enterprises are just starting to explore.

On 05/08/2011 12:00 AM, Dan Lund wrote:
> Forgive me for being pedantic on this one, but... what do you mean by limited by the admin tools and custom hardware options?
> (I'm not being a butt about this, it just kinda folded into itself when you said that)
> 
> --Dan
> 
> On May 7, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
> 
>> Absolutely. It is limited only by the admin tools and custom hardware options.
>>
>> On 5/7/11, Dan Lund <situationalawareness at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does the free version of vmware have bridging?
>>> Last I used vmware outside of ESXi and vSphere was like 2005.
>>>
>>> --Dan
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vmware is free and very effective. Just saying...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/7/11, Judd Pickell <pickell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> vbox does support bridging and is needed to solve the problem mentioned.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:50 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably set up IP as NAT, or internal.  Does vbox do bridged IPs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setup vbox on XP loaded CentOS 5.6 set IP different than host.  Can
>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>> IP of vertual server from command line of self.  Cannot ping from
>>>>>>> outside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help appreciated!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On *Sat, 5/7/11, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: visualization question
>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you can use either virtualbox or vmware and it will work, just set up
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> networking so that it has an IP on your physical network for simple
>>>>>>> access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, keith smith
>>>>>>> <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm running XP on a dell box and was wondering if I can install
>>>>>>> visualization on top of that, install CentOS, and have both running at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same time with the XP being a client and the CentOS being a LAMP
>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>> I'd like to access the docroot crom the XP box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------
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