Looking for NAS Hardware Recommendations

Mark Phillips mark at phillipsmarketing.biz
Wed Jul 13 17:45:35 MST 2011


On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Joseph Sinclair <plug-discussion at stcaz.net
> wrote:

> I missed the 1.43 part...  Seems they've improved security.
>
> If you can get a shell prompt with acp_commander, try running whoami. If
> you're already root, then "passwd -d root" will clear the current password,
> and you can then set it to anything you like with "passwd"
>

I get a shell prompt, but nothing seems to work. Every command returns 3
blank lines and a prompt.

>
> The only safe way to upload firmware is, unfortunately, a Windows or Mac
> binary that's included with the firmware update.
>
> That said, you can try
> http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmwareif you're brave.
>
That looks good, but I cannot access /dev/fl1 from the telnet prompt I get.
Nothing works at that prompt.

>
> You might also just try (from an acp_commander shell prompt) copying the
> ssh key (put it on a share first) from the array locally over to
> /root/.ssh/authorized_keys (make sure to check permissions after copying),
> then try ssh.
>

Good idea, if I could just get telnet to work. Any thoughts on that?

>
> good luck.
>
> On 07/12/2011 09:59 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
> > You shouldn't need to change or upload firmware.
> >
> > acp_commander can reset the root password (If it can get a shell prompt
> it should be able to reset the password...)
> >   java -jar acp_commander.jar -t $YOUR_NAS_IP_ADDRESS -o
> > That will clear the root password to nothing, allowing you to login via
> ssh or telnet as root with the (blank) password.
> >
> > You should be able to re-secure things from there (ideally drop an SSH
> key in for root, create a second account that can sudo and drop a key there
> as well, then lock the password for both to prevent password login and
> disable telnet).
> >
> > On 07/12/2011 02:25 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> >> Joeseph,
> >>
> >> One more issue, oh Great Buffalo NAS one....;-)
> >>
> >> I started to work on rooting the device by following this
> >> http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:LS-WXL. First stumbling
> block
> >> is I have firmware 1.43. However, the zip key for 1.41 worked to unzip
> the
> >> firmware image. It turns out ssh is already enabled for root in 1.43,
> but
> >> one needs a password. It is not the same as the admin password. So, I
> set up
> >> an ssh key and put the disk image back together as described in the
> article.
> >> However, how do I get the LS-WXL beastie to gobble up the new firmware?
> >>
> >> The web access only allows firmware to be downloaded from Buffalo (no
> upload
> >> file dialog, just a button to update the firmware, which only goes to
> >> Buffalo to check on available updates, and then installs them), and the
> >> Windows software does not have an option to upload firmware, either. I
> can
> >> get in with acp_commander to the shell prompt, which seems to be a
> disguised
> >> telnet prompt, so I am not sure how to upload new firmware via that
> method.
> >>
> >> Anyway to get the root password from the device or the file system I
> >> downloaded so I can use that to ssh in and not have to replace the
> firmware?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any further suggestions you may have!
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Joseph Sinclair
> >> <plug-discussion at stcaz.net>wrote:
> >>
> >>> rsync will preserve ownership if you set the option to do so (I don't
> >>> recall the exact flag offhand).
> >>> I actually prefer rsync over the Samba mount because cifs doesn't
> >>> understand POSIX permissions.
> >>>
> >>> If you root the box you can certainly do the rsync over ssh, but on a
> local
> >>> net native(uncompressed) rsync protocol is *immensely* faster because
> the
> >>> little ARM chip in the NAS can't handle the ssh encrypt/decrypt very
> fast.
> >>>
> >>> SSH is useful for a lot of things, but I prefer the rsync daemon for
> rsync.
> >>>
> >>> IIRC backuppc can handle the hardlink issue via rsync (rsync can
> preserve
> >>> hardlinks, softlinks, etc...), but if not then your best bet might be
> to
> >>> install something more NAS-friendly.
> >>>
> >>> I'd not recommend installing Debian.  It's possible, but the machine is
> >>> quite limited in CPU and RAM, so the experience is likely to be
> somewhat
> >>> frustrating.  Most of the people who install Debian are running
> >>> Terastations, which have desktop CPU's rather than ARM chips (and cost
> 5
> >>> times more).
> >>>
> >>> On 07/10/2011 10:42 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> >>>> In the shared folders section, one can check Windows, Apple, disk
> backup,
> >>>> ftp, and sftp. When I clicked Windows and backup, rsync works.
> >>>>
> >>>> mark at orca:~/Desktop$ rsync SANY0002.JPG
> >>> rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/array1_fred/
> >>>> mark at orca:~/Desktop$ rsync rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/
> >>>> array1_fred
> >>>> mark at orca:~/Desktop$
> >>>>
> >>>> The file was copied to fred, as verified by ftp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the link. I am worried that backup files will loose their
> >>>> ownership attributes when I back them up, as the poster says:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Yes, you can use rsync on another machine to connect to the
> >>> rsync-enabled
> >>>> shares on a LSpro; BUT all the files created by this method on the
> LSpro
> >>> are
> >>>> owned by root/root and not by any of the users created on the LSpro,
> and
> >>>> there is no way to delete or update these files except by using the
> rsync
> >>>> command."
> >>>>
> >>>> If I root the device and enable ssh, then I can rsync in via ssh and
> >>> bypass
> >>>> all this Buffalo c**p, right? Backuppc also depends on hard links, so
> >>>> perhaps I have to go all the way and install Debian on the box?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Joseph Sinclair <
> >>> plug-discussion at stcaz.net
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> For the mount, you can just use normal mount with -t cifs (or put it
> in
> >>>>> fstab with cifs as the filesystem type).
> >>>>> umount is generic; the unmount interface standardized a while back,
> >>> that's
> >>>>> why umount.cifs is no longer in Debian, it's obsolete.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For rsync, the module name will never have a space.  Given that it's
> not
> >>>>> showing up the way we expect, my best guess is the module naming
> changed
> >>> in
> >>>>> the most recent revisions of the firmware.
> >>>>> It seems something odd is going on, quite possibly the rsync daemon
> is
> >>>>> running but no shares are enabled as backup targets.
> >>>>> According to the Linkstation forums on buffalo.nas-central.org, You
> >>> have
> >>>>> to go into the backup section in the web interface and set each share
> >>> that's
> >>>>> supposed to be available via rsync as a backup target (not entirely
> sure
> >>>>> what that looks like).
> >>>>> Here's the post I found:
> >>>>> http://forum.buffalo.nas-central.org/viewtopic.php?p=41941#p41941
> >>>>> It's not 100% applicable, but it should apply to your device fairly
> >>>>> equally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 07/10/2011 07:12 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>> The only way I can gain access to the shares is to use the
> following. I
> >>>>>> created a new share called 'fred' and deleted the other shares:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> mount.cifs   //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/fred   /home/nas_share   -o
> >>> user=user_name
> >>>>>> password=pass
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course, umount.cifs is no longer in Debian, but umount -f works
> to
> >>>>>> unmount the share.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I cannot get rsync to work. According to the man page the following
> >>>>> should
> >>>>>> return a list of shares:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> rsync rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nothing is returned (eg a blank line). I tried telnet
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> >>> 873
> >>>>>> and I got the rsync response @RSYNCD: 30.0, so the daemon is
> running, I
> >>>>>> suppose.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The following all return 'unknown module' regardless of what name I
> put
> >>>>>> after the url (array1_fred, , array0_fred array2_fred)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> rsync some_file rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/array1_fred/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or a '/' instead of a '_' returns the same error for module array1,
> >>>>> array2,
> >>>>>> array0. I also tried Array[0,1,2] with the same result. Some of the
> web
> >>>>>> pages show the name as Array 1, so I tried the capital A and a
> space,
> >>> but
> >>>>>> still not luck.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I ftp into the box, the path to fred is
> >>> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/array1/fred.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I tried restarting the Linkstation, and no change.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I also tried the alternative rsync format, rsync some_file
> >>>>>> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx::array1_fred, and that did not work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any more ideas on how to get rsync to work?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Joseph Sinclair
> >>>>>> <plug-discussion at stcaz.net>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dash and underscore are fine.
> >>>>>>> The only way to "reset" the name using the standard web interface
> is
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> delete the share and re-create it with the new name.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 07/10/2011 11:23 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Can the share name have a dash or underscore in it? How can I
> "reset"
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> share names?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2011 10:59 AM, "Joseph Sinclair" <
> >>> plug-discussion at stcaz.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The info folder is used by the web interface; don't delete that
> >>> unless
> >>>>>>>> you'd like to reload the device from scratch ;)
> >>>>>>>>> The correct value should be array1_Hshare. array1_Hshare is the
> >>> rsync
> >>>>>>>> top-level "module" name, not a directory.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The issue you're seeing sounds like a case-match issue or
> something
> >>>>>>>> similar. The module will be exactly "array1_" followed by the
> >>> (initial)
> >>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>>> of the directory on the array.
> >>>>>>>>> If you initially put spaces in, or changed the name, then you'll
> >>> have
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> hard time figuring out the module name because it's based on the
> >>> first
> >>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>>> you give for the share; it doesn't get updated if you change the
> >>> share
> >>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>>> later.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also, if you changed the RAID settings, then try using array2 or
> >>>>> array0,
> >>>>>>>> just in case it changed the array numbering.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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