Looking for NAS Hardware Recommendations

Joseph Sinclair plug-discussion at stcaz.net
Tue Jul 12 22:38:53 MST 2011


I missed the 1.43 part...  Seems they've improved security.

If you can get a shell prompt with acp_commander, try running whoami. If you're already root, then "passwd -d root" will clear the current password, and you can then set it to anything you like with "passwd"

The only safe way to upload firmware is, unfortunately, a Windows or Mac binary that's included with the firmware update.

That said, you can try http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmware if you're brave.

You might also just try (from an acp_commander shell prompt) copying the ssh key (put it on a share first) from the array locally over to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys (make sure to check permissions after copying), then try ssh.

good luck.

On 07/12/2011 09:59 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
> You shouldn't need to change or upload firmware.
> 
> acp_commander can reset the root password (If it can get a shell prompt it should be able to reset the password...)
>   java -jar acp_commander.jar -t $YOUR_NAS_IP_ADDRESS -o
> That will clear the root password to nothing, allowing you to login via ssh or telnet as root with the (blank) password.
> 
> You should be able to re-secure things from there (ideally drop an SSH key in for root, create a second account that can sudo and drop a key there as well, then lock the password for both to prevent password login and disable telnet).
> 
> On 07/12/2011 02:25 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>> Joeseph,
>>
>> One more issue, oh Great Buffalo NAS one....;-)
>>
>> I started to work on rooting the device by following this
>> http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:LS-WXL. First stumbling block
>> is I have firmware 1.43. However, the zip key for 1.41 worked to unzip the
>> firmware image. It turns out ssh is already enabled for root in 1.43, but
>> one needs a password. It is not the same as the admin password. So, I set up
>> an ssh key and put the disk image back together as described in the article.
>> However, how do I get the LS-WXL beastie to gobble up the new firmware?
>>
>> The web access only allows firmware to be downloaded from Buffalo (no upload
>> file dialog, just a button to update the firmware, which only goes to
>> Buffalo to check on available updates, and then installs them), and the
>> Windows software does not have an option to upload firmware, either. I can
>> get in with acp_commander to the shell prompt, which seems to be a disguised
>> telnet prompt, so I am not sure how to upload new firmware via that method.
>>
>> Anyway to get the root password from the device or the file system I
>> downloaded so I can use that to ssh in and not have to replace the firmware?
>>
>> Thanks for any further suggestions you may have!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Joseph Sinclair
>> <plug-discussion at stcaz.net>wrote:
>>
>>> rsync will preserve ownership if you set the option to do so (I don't
>>> recall the exact flag offhand).
>>> I actually prefer rsync over the Samba mount because cifs doesn't
>>> understand POSIX permissions.
>>>
>>> If you root the box you can certainly do the rsync over ssh, but on a local
>>> net native(uncompressed) rsync protocol is *immensely* faster because the
>>> little ARM chip in the NAS can't handle the ssh encrypt/decrypt very fast.
>>>
>>> SSH is useful for a lot of things, but I prefer the rsync daemon for rsync.
>>>
>>> IIRC backuppc can handle the hardlink issue via rsync (rsync can preserve
>>> hardlinks, softlinks, etc...), but if not then your best bet might be to
>>> install something more NAS-friendly.
>>>
>>> I'd not recommend installing Debian.  It's possible, but the machine is
>>> quite limited in CPU and RAM, so the experience is likely to be somewhat
>>> frustrating.  Most of the people who install Debian are running
>>> Terastations, which have desktop CPU's rather than ARM chips (and cost 5
>>> times more).
>>>
>>> On 07/10/2011 10:42 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>>>> In the shared folders section, one can check Windows, Apple, disk backup,
>>>> ftp, and sftp. When I clicked Windows and backup, rsync works.
>>>>
>>>> mark at orca:~/Desktop$ rsync SANY0002.JPG
>>> rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/array1_fred/
>>>> mark at orca:~/Desktop$ rsync rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/
>>>> array1_fred
>>>> mark at orca:~/Desktop$
>>>>
>>>> The file was copied to fred, as verified by ftp.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link. I am worried that backup files will loose their
>>>> ownership attributes when I back them up, as the poster says:
>>>>
>>>> "Yes, you can use rsync on another machine to connect to the
>>> rsync-enabled
>>>> shares on a LSpro; BUT all the files created by this method on the LSpro
>>> are
>>>> owned by root/root and not by any of the users created on the LSpro, and
>>>> there is no way to delete or update these files except by using the rsync
>>>> command."
>>>>
>>>> If I root the device and enable ssh, then I can rsync in via ssh and
>>> bypass
>>>> all this Buffalo c**p, right? Backuppc also depends on hard links, so
>>>> perhaps I have to go all the way and install Debian on the box?
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Joseph Sinclair <
>>> plug-discussion at stcaz.net
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For the mount, you can just use normal mount with -t cifs (or put it in
>>>>> fstab with cifs as the filesystem type).
>>>>> umount is generic; the unmount interface standardized a while back,
>>> that's
>>>>> why umount.cifs is no longer in Debian, it's obsolete.
>>>>>
>>>>> For rsync, the module name will never have a space.  Given that it's not
>>>>> showing up the way we expect, my best guess is the module naming changed
>>> in
>>>>> the most recent revisions of the firmware.
>>>>> It seems something odd is going on, quite possibly the rsync daemon is
>>>>> running but no shares are enabled as backup targets.
>>>>> According to the Linkstation forums on buffalo.nas-central.org, You
>>> have
>>>>> to go into the backup section in the web interface and set each share
>>> that's
>>>>> supposed to be available via rsync as a backup target (not entirely sure
>>>>> what that looks like).
>>>>> Here's the post I found:
>>>>> http://forum.buffalo.nas-central.org/viewtopic.php?p=41941#p41941
>>>>> It's not 100% applicable, but it should apply to your device fairly
>>>>> equally.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/10/2011 07:12 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>>>>>> The only way I can gain access to the shares is to use the following. I
>>>>>> created a new share called 'fred' and deleted the other shares:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mount.cifs   //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/fred   /home/nas_share   -o
>>> user=user_name
>>>>>> password=pass
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, umount.cifs is no longer in Debian, but umount -f works to
>>>>>> unmount the share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot get rsync to work. According to the man page the following
>>>>> should
>>>>>> return a list of shares:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rsync rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing is returned (eg a blank line). I tried telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>>> 873
>>>>>> and I got the rsync response @RSYNCD: 30.0, so the daemon is running, I
>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following all return 'unknown module' regardless of what name I put
>>>>>> after the url (array1_fred, , array0_fred array2_fred)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rsync some_file rsync://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/array1_fred/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or a '/' instead of a '_' returns the same error for module array1,
>>>>> array2,
>>>>>> array0. I also tried Array[0,1,2] with the same result. Some of the web
>>>>>> pages show the name as Array 1, so I tried the capital A and a space,
>>> but
>>>>>> still not luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I ftp into the box, the path to fred is
>>> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/array1/fred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried restarting the Linkstation, and no change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also tried the alternative rsync format, rsync some_file
>>>>>> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx::array1_fred, and that did not work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any more ideas on how to get rsync to work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Joseph Sinclair
>>>>>> <plug-discussion at stcaz.net>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dash and underscore are fine.
>>>>>>> The only way to "reset" the name using the standard web interface is
>>> to
>>>>>>> delete the share and re-create it with the new name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 07/10/2011 11:23 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>> Can the share name have a dash or underscore in it? How can I "reset"
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> share names?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2011 10:59 AM, "Joseph Sinclair" <
>>> plug-discussion at stcaz.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The info folder is used by the web interface; don't delete that
>>> unless
>>>>>>>> you'd like to reload the device from scratch ;)
>>>>>>>>> The correct value should be array1_Hshare. array1_Hshare is the
>>> rsync
>>>>>>>> top-level "module" name, not a directory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The issue you're seeing sounds like a case-match issue or something
>>>>>>>> similar. The module will be exactly "array1_" followed by the
>>> (initial)
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> of the directory on the array.
>>>>>>>>> If you initially put spaces in, or changed the name, then you'll
>>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> hard time figuring out the module name because it's based on the
>>> first
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> you give for the share; it doesn't get updated if you change the
>>> share
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, if you changed the RAID settings, then try using array2 or
>>>>> array0,
>>>>>>>> just in case it changed the array numbering.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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