Exploitation?

Mon Apr 25 14:33:30 MST 2011

ok this really needs to go off list..

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, James Finstrom <
jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

> LOL I am not the one off topic but  I am at fault as everyone knows your
> 256 shades of bat*** crazy and I made the mistake of pointing it out. I
> assume you will take your meds and not hurt yourself or anyone else for my
> mistake....
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> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:
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>> James,
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>> I accept your apology for the PLUG.
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>> Have a better day.
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>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom <
>> jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
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>>> I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job.
>>> What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and
>>> motivations ie: the subject of this email
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:
>>>
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>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job.  The job post
>>>>> says "...This position is 90% remote...".
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their
>>>>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company.  I was W2 and
>>>>> worked from home.  He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he
>>>>> worked out of his home.  By doing business this way he was able to keep the
>>>>> cost of doing business to a minimum.  I believe he started on a shoe string
>>>>> and just stayed there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get
>>>>> some resume material.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kevin Fries <kfries6 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Exploitation?
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>>>>> >
>>>>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation.  Though I would say
>>>>> they are trying to take advantage slightly.  All the requirements are 1-3
>>>>> years.  I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this
>>>>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey.  Here in Denver that job
>>>>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than
>>>>> yours.  I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job
>>>>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find
>>>>> one... but that is Denver.  Phoenix is a much tougher nut.  So while the
>>>>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a
>>>>> bit strong.  I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18
>>>>> range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold at obnosis.com<http://mc/compose?to=lisakachold@obnosis.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Anyone seen this:
>>>>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --excerpt--
>>>>> >
>>>>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr.
>>>>> Admin
>>>>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic
>>>>> background in
>>>>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in
>>>>> the
>>>>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set.
>>>>> Please
>>>>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay
>>>>> rate
>>>>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>>>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
>>>>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years
>>>>> > UNIX - is a plus
>>>>> > Programing - is a plus
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > * Location: Phoenix Area
>>>>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>>>>> >
>>>>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called
>>>>> Junior
>>>>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay
>>>>> them
>>>>> > $12-15 an hour?
>>>>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have
>>>>> mis-registered their
>>>>> > domain name?
>>>>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you
>>>>> can
>>>>> > work 15 minutes on the hour!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
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>>>>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account
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>>>>> > removed the user God." -Saros
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>>>>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig.
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>>>> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there.
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