Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet

[keith smith]

You take advantage of your drive to work and your cellular.  Call everyone from your local office holders all the way to the Federal level reps.  Call daily.  Fax, write letters, and attend town hall meetings as well as the Tea Party gatherings.

We are making headway.  The Ruckus some are making at the town hall meetings is being seen.

We are the people!!!! 



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Keith Smith


--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com> wrote:

> From: Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
> Subject: Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks  Emergency Control of the Internet
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:22 PM
> How do we get that bill introduced?
> 
> On 8/31/09, Robert Holtzman <holtzm at cox.net>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:16:39PM -0700, Austin
> William Wright wrote:
> >> Jason Spatafore wrote:
> >> > Give me direct vote on all laws that are
> presented to Congress. That is
> >> > all I ask. Until then, this conversation is
> pretty much over. It's going
> >> > to be a constant republican vs. democrat vs.
> independent debate that
> >> > constantly occurs every single day.
> >
> >             
> ..............snip...............
> >
> >> Wrong sir. Our founding fathers were VERY AFRAID
> that this kind of
> >> thinking would some day emerge, and they set up
> very plain language in
> >> the Constitution to try and prevent that.
> "/Congress shall make no
> >> law...//abridging the freedom of speech"/ It
> doesn't get much clearer
> >> than that. How about "/The powers not delegated to
> the United States by
> >> the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
> States, are reserved to
> >> the States respectively, or to the people./"
> >>
> >> We are NOT a democracy. We are a constitutional
> republic. There are
> >> rulers, and there are the ruled, and with the
> implication that the
> >> rulers are always better off, a constitution was
> written that severely
> >> limited the power of any one person or group of
> people. The founding
> >> fathers recognized the danger of one group of
> people appointing the
> >> rulers - that is why no one group of people does
> so. It is why the
> >> president with the consent of the senate appoints
> judges, it is why
> >> judges hold lifetime office, it is why we have the
> electoral college
> >> system - so no one person has all the power. If
> you cannot explicitly
> >> find where in the Constitution a power is
> delegated to a particular
> >> individual, that power is unconstitutional to
> hold. Period. If you want
> >> to change it, I suggest you propose an amendment,
> because the meaning of
> >> our constitution DOES NOT CHANGE. If it did, there
> would be no way to
> >> enforce it or seek out its enemies, "foreign or
> domestic." Selectively
> >> interpreting the Constitution is a very slippery
> slope that will lead to
> >> disaster, or people in power who you do not agree
> with (our current and
> >> previous presidents come to mind). Selectively
> interpreting the
> >> Constitution will inevitably lead to your loss of
> any right granted to
> >> you under it, because "the majority of people
> think so."
> >>
> >> Democracy is nothing but tyranny of the majority.
> I was walking through
> >> Boston recently, and coming to the Holocaust
> memorial I saw a quote, a
> >> common variation of which goes as follows:
> >>
> >> First they came for the Jews
> >> and I did not speak out
> >> because I was not a Jew.
> >> Then they came for the Communists
> >> and I did not speak out
> >> because I was not a Communist.
> >> Then they came for the trade unionists
> >> and I did not speak out
> >> because I was not a trade unionist.
> >> Then they came for me
> >> and there was no one left
> >> to speak out for me.
> >>
> >>  Martin Niemöller
> >>
> >> This serves as a warning, democracy does not
> protect rights. It enforces
> >> the coercive will of the majority.
> >
> > ...and that's exactly what some of the contributers to
> this thread are
> > espousing. Someone finally caught it.
> >
> > I didn't snip Austin Wright's post because it bears
> repeating and repeating
> > :and repeating!
> >
> > --
> > Bob Holtzman
> > Key ID: 8D549279
> > "If you think you're getting free lunch,
> >  check the price of the beer"
> >
> 
> 
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