language problem redux

[Jerry Davis]

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:47:50 -0700
Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Jerry Davis <jdawgaz at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:12:03 -0700
> > Jerry Davis <jdawgaz at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:03:55 -0700
> > > Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Jerry Davis <jdawgaz at cox.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I generated a file on our RH 4 linux box using a perl program I wrote
> > from
> > > > > an
> > > > > oracle database that is set to utf8.
> > > > >
> > > > > I run that very same perl program on my windows box [ using cygwin ]
> > > > > (internally
> > > > > set to WINDOWS-1252). This way, I have a benchmark file to look at.
> > This
> > > > > file is
> > > > > what it is supposed to look like. The spanish characters and other
> > > > > characters
> > > > > come out just fine when typed out at the terminal.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried, on RH4, setting my LANG to en_US.utf8 and generating it, and
> > > > > copied it
> > > > > over to windows via sftp (which always copies over in binary mode, I
> > found
> > > > > out), and it does not compare.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried, on RH4, setting my LANG to en_US.CP1252 and regenerated it,
> > copied
> > > > > it
> > > > > over to windows using sftp, and compared -- no soap.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry, it would probably be useful to your helpers if you gave some
> > > > indocation of in what way it does not compare.  Though I do not suggest
> > this
> > > > is your answer, an example might be that the version from linux had
> > line
> > > > feeds while the version from cygwin on Windoze had both carriage
> > returns and
> > > > line feeds.  So do a diff and capture the output in some form we can
> > see.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > so ... does anyone have any ideas that might work? it rankles me that
> > I
> > > > > have to
> > > > > run the program on windows to make it do the right thing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Jerry (K7AZJ)
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> > >
> > > I'm off today, but my perl program creates a file with \r\n as the line
> > endings.
> > > When I say they don't compare, I am not talking about line endings. I am
> > fully
> > > aware of those. I am talking about the actual spanish characters.
> > >
> > > I will send the fragments when I get back to the office
> > >
> >
> > 1. done with perl script on cygwin
> > The file fragment produced looks like this: (you will note the good spanish
> > characters)
> >
> > "Steps to Reproduce:
> > 1. log into TX G2. Choose Español from the drop-down menu.
> > 2. go to topic 1_5 and click View
> > 3. click Guided Practice and look at q1.
> > Results: most of the question talks about cubes 'cubos,' but the equation
> > says stickers 'calcom
> > anías'
> > ER: calcomanías más' should be changed to 'cubos
> > más'"|"No"|""|"TXMAES02GP-1_5 - q.1 talks abou
> > t cubes, but then equation says stickers"|"none"|""|"Margo Milham
> > (milhma)"|"DP-Digital Path"|"
> > Envision Math"|"Texas Spanish"|""|""|"3 - Normal"|"Online Digital
> > Path"|""|"4 - Minor"|"Submitt
> > ed"|"Margo Milham (milhma)"|"2009-01-23 14:28:10"|""|""|""|""|"Not
> > Tested"|""|"Defect"|"DP-0004
> > 8591"|""|""|"DP-00048591" "
> >
> > 2. done on linux with CP1252 or uft8 or ISO85891: doesn't seem to matter,
> > and sftp'd over to windows:
> > (now description fragment looks like this: UGLY)
> >
> > "CURR00048591    DP-00048591     TXMAES02GP-1_5 (also occurs in
> > NAMAES02GP-1_5) - q.1 talks abou
> > t cubes, but then equation says stickers<<n>><<n>>Steps to
> > Reproduce:<<n>>1. log into TX G2. Ch
> > oose EspaAƒA±ol from the drop-down menu.<<n>>2. go to topic 1_5 and click
> > View<<n>>3. click Gui
> > ded Practice and look at q1.<<n>>Results: most of the question talks about
> > cubes "cubos," but t
> > he equation says stickers "calcomanAƒA-as"<<n>>ER: calcomanAƒA-as mAƒA¡s"
> > should be changed to
> > "cubos mAƒA¡s" "
> >
> > 2a. what it looked like on linux:
> >
> > "CURR00048591    DP-00048591     TXMAES02GP-1_5 (also occurs in
> > NAMAES02GP-1_5) - q.1 talks about cubes, but then equation says
> > stickers<<n>><<n>>Steps to Reproduce:<<n>>1. log into TX G2. Choose Español
> > from the drop-down menu.<<n>>2. go to topic 1_5 and click View<<n>>3. click
> > Guided Practice and look at q1.<<n>>Results: most of the question talks
> > about cubes "cubos," but the equation says stickers "calcomanÃas"<<n>>ER:
> > calcomanÃas más" should be changed to "cubos más" "
> >
> >
> > BEFORE ANYONE ASKS. Line Ending have NO PART in this question.
> 
> 
> Actually, if you read my earlier response I definitively did not suggest
> line endings as the problem.  I only said that you had not described the
> differences and used the line endings as a well known example of a
> difference between windows and linux.  It was only an example of describing
> a difference.


yes, i reread your post, and you did NOT suggest line endings was the problem.
my bad, i didn't read it closely enuf.

i understand that the fragments are not exact dups, but I just copied and
pasted enough to let y'all know what the diffs were.

thanks.

> 
> When I look at your inclusions here I see a number of differences, but since
> I am searching your data, I only see two kinds of differences.  One is how
> the lines break which is NOT what you are talking about, and the other looks
> like differences in how specialized characters are displayed or
> represented.  Maybe there are other differences but I am missing them if so.
> 
> Nonetheless, now maybe there is enough information here for someone more
> knowledgeable than myself to help you.
> 
> Dazed_75
> 
> >
> >
> > So does anyone have any suggestions?
> >
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> > Jerry (K7AZJ)
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Registered Linux User: 275424
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