librarian's [libertine?] use of the word "FREE" (was: Re: west side during the summer)

Mon Jun 22 16:00:57 MST 2009

interesting.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mike Schwartz<schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
> This is so cool:
>> ((...and that is free as in, "we do not have to pay";
>>    although maybe it is also "both" kinds of free -- in some sense))
> The librarian's ".sig" includes this Stallman-esque maxim:
> (well, after you skip the "contact info") :
> <<(623) 930-3849
>
> pjcampbell at glendaleaz.com
>
> Knowledge is free at the library - bring your own container.>>
>
> ([some] librarians are so) Cool, -- right?
>
> PS:  I think the mention of the word "container" above, means your brain; --
> this library does provide plenty of free ((there's that WORD again!))
> plastic bags ...
>
> --
> Mike Schwartz
> Glendale  AZ
> schwartz at acm.org
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think I have found a place for a nice location
>> for the June 24, 2009 meeting.
>> I just talked to the lady at the Foothills branch library,
>> Foothills Branch Library
>> 19055 N. 57th Ave.
>> Glendale, AZ 85308
>> and she is e-mailing me the forms,
>> so we can use the room there;
>> and -- even though!  they usu. require a 2-week lead time --
>> she said that "this one time", the short notice would be OK,
>> since they do have a time slot free for us
>> (6:30 pm to set up, meeting starts at 7:00, building closes at 9:00).
>> I told her that I was calling on behalf of the Phoenix Chapter ACM
>> (which actually is "sorta" true...), and she can (and probably will)
>> confirm that this .org (see my e-mail address) www.acm.org
>> (including individual SIGs and local chapters "etc.")
>> does have a 501(c)3 designation
>> (from the IRS)
>> ("officially")
>> (something that PLUG might not have ..."technically")
>> HOWEVER I did point out to her, that this meeting was for
>> ["the benefit of"] PLUG ("http://plug.phoenix.az.us/node/354"),
>> and will be focusing on topic[s] of interest to PLUG folks.
>> But please, (everyone), don't be too freaked out if (in some official
>> forum)
>> this meeting might be billed as a meeting of the Phoenix Chapter ACM.
>> REST ASSURED that,
>> this meeting WILL (like all of the meetings of the local branch of the
>> IEEE Computer Society) be free and open to the general public.
>> ((...and that is free as in, "we do not have to pay";
>>    although maybe it is also "both" kinds of free -- in some sense))
>> Now you guys (um, persons) can feel free to meet elsewhere, or even
>> stay home and miss it, but I for one will now feel an obligation to show
>> up, even if I am the only one there.
>> The directions to the meeting room we are going to be using
>> (called the "Hummingbird Room: Accommodates up to 31 persons.")
>> (it is OK to talk loud!) are as follows:
>> [1]  after entering the front doors, *before* doing through the
>>       metal detectors, (or whatever those things are that beep
>>       if you are exiting with a book and forgot to check it out),
>>       turn to the left.
>> [2]  then, on your right will be some rest rooms.  PAST at least
>>       one of the rest rooms (maybe both) (I am not sure), on your
>>       right will be the "Hummingbird Room".
>> [3]   the building has free wifi
>> [4]   I think there are electric plugs -- but this will be my first time
>> to
>>        actually use the "Hummingbird Room", so we shall see.
>> [5]   I am not sure about overhead projector[s] -- (do we need one?)
>> I hope to see ((some of)) you there.
>> As far as getting to the building, 57th Ave. is closed North of Union
>> Hills Dr.,
>> (for construction), so take 59th Ave. to Utopia
>> (a half-mile street between Union Hills Drive and [Beardsley =] Loop 101
>> fwy),
>> and go West on Utopia 1/4 mile, then South about a 1/2 block to the
>> first left.
>> (and park in the first available space that you see).
>> PS:  Anyone who attends, is welcome to come to my house for
>>      some refreshments afterwards.  OR we could go somewhere else.
>>      (I live about 2 freeway exits away.)
>> --
>> Mike Schwartz
>> Glendale  AZ
>> schwartz at acm.org
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Mike Schwartz <mike.l.schwartz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another idea:
>>>    The Glendale public library has free wifi, at least at the
>>> branch I usually go to, the "Foothills" branch, which is on
>>> 57th Ave,. N of Union Hills Dr.
>>> (directions to it from the 101:  Go S on 59th Ave.,
>>>  for 1/2 mile, then E on Utopia for 1/4 mile,
>>>  then S on 57th Ave to the first left).
>>> They do have some meeting rooms, which we could
>>> probably use, including 2 small, 1 medium, and one large.
>>> They prefer monthly use by non-profit .org's, vs. weekly.
>>> (which would be fine with PLUG).
>>> They "might" insist on the room being reserved by a
>>> non-profit .org that does "technically" have a valid
>>> "501 (c) 3" designation from the federal .gov
>>> (like, the IRS or whatever).
>>> If that happens, then
>>> the Phoenix Chapter ACM would be happy to
>>> [a] create a  "Linux SIG" [subset of itself], and
>>> [b] reserve the room, and
>>> [c] hold a meeting which is open to the general public.
>>> (...but, which would probably be publicized mainly
>>>  via PLUG, and maybe somewhere like
>>>  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.org.acm/
>>>  although that is mainly oriented towards stuff
>>>  that is not just local to one city...)
>>> Comment:  The IEEE computer society typically
>>> holds meetings that are open to the general public,
>>> ((which is good, because "some" of those who
>>>   are not members, might be ones who "would"
>>>   be members, if it were cheaper to join.))
>>> Lately some of those [IEEE computer society meetings]
>>>  were held in Chandler, but they typically are held
>>>  at DeVry (2149 W Dunlap)
>>>  (less than a mile from I-17)
>>>  which is "sorta" on the 'West Side'
>>>  (approx. as "West" as ACAA, near Bell Rd & I-17).
>>> </end comment>
>>> --
>>> Mike Schwartz
>>> Glendale  AZ
>>> schwartz at acm.org
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Lyle Tuttle <L.tuttle at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are four Home & Garden Expo Centers in the greater Phoenix
>>>> area.......each has free meeting space......go to
>>>> http://www.homeandgardenexpocenter.com/  and take a look -- the one in
>>>> Peoria is right behind Dillons, a great BBQ place......
>>>>
>>>> Did I mention that they are FREE, and already set up for meetings....and
>>>> I bet if you wanted to, you could promote a LINUX DAY for the
>>>> public..."Everything you ever wanted to know about Linux", or "Linux for
>>>> Dummies"..."Linux 101 - Free Course"..
>>>>
>>>> and show it off to newbies...like me....
>>>>
>>>> lyle
>>>>
>>>> At 09:29 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:28 AM, der.hans <PLUGd at lufthans.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know of a nice locally owned restarant near I-17 and Bell? Bonus
>>>> if
>>>> it has a room we can use and wireless :).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Idea: Pot luck dinner at someone's house (who's westside) for a PLUG
>>>> meeting? (Not mine, Tatum and Bell :3) There's a guaranteed (free) wireless,
>>>> a room, etc... and if we all bring food, dayum that sound good.
>>>>
>>>> or, let's see...
>>>>
>>>> *We could have our meetings begin a little earlier and meet at Arrowhead
>>>> mall... (We could eat in the food court and then go hand out GNU/Linux
>>>> install disks and fliers outside of the Apple Store)
>>>>
>>>> *Uncle Sam's (83rd and Union) has great food and (I believe) is locally
>>>> owned. Unsure about wifi, etc, but would be a good place for a stamtisch
>>>> type meetup.
>>>>
>>>> *Borders @ 75th and bell? Coffee shop, decent supply of tech books, etc.
>>>> (no free wifi though, iirc.) someone could bring an AP maybe ;)
>>>>
>>>> *Next coffee co (59th and utopia) has free wifi, never been there but
>>>> has some decent reviews.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>>> Ryan Rix
>>>> OnBoard-NG
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