OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin (Was:Re:newhotness?)

[Bryan O'Neal]

Other then Google apps? No.  I too would love to know. Their are some issues
with Google apps, such as the fact that I can not get contact syncing
working with a desktop client.  I have tried a number of products like GCalD
but have not been able to get them to work with a Google apps account.
However, if you can stand using the web client and add the task function it
is close enough for a number of people.
 
I too am an accountant (no really I have degrees in accounting and CIS :) so
I understand the lock to the windows world.  And trust me accounting
products like Peachtree and timberline don't run well in wine.

  _____  

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Cope
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Subject: Re: OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin
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I still haven't seen a list of applications that rival Exchange. I have a
client that wants some of the features of exchange, but can't afford it,
making him a great candidate for FOSS. I just don't know what packages to
use. He would like the scheduling/calendar feature as well as global contact
lists. I've tried the poor man's version (CalDAV), but Sunbird and
Thunderbird didn't seem to support it well... He is an accountant, meaning
he must live in the Windows world for Quickbooks and Peachtree.  Any ideas
are appreciated.

Eric


On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Bob Elzer <bob.elzer at gmail.com> wrote:


I remember the ACDSee picture program on Windows, when it first came out, it
was the really fast way to view your photos. Now it's a sloth of a program
and wastes resources. Which is why I still run the old version.

I want something small and fast, to just display my photo, I don't need all
that extra crap built in.

Exchange has become that sloth, MS wants it to do everything, thus it
becomes bloated and slow.

Cobbling is really making your system modular, don't need a PIM, don't run
one, just need mail, just run that.

MS has always had the "Do it ALL in one program" mentality, and they don't
mind gobbling up all your resources to do it.

Just look at Vista and Windows 7, could someone please explain why the OS
went from 4GB in Win Xp to 11GB in Vista and Win 7 ??? without gaining and
new usability. Sure it's got nifty graphics, but 7GB worth ?
Really can anybody explain where the 7Gb went ?

I'd love to get a more powerful machine, but not so I can get back to where
I already was with the OS, SO I CAN DO MORE.

Just because a client has multiple functions built in, doesn't mean the
server has to also.

I may be able to disable functions in exchange, but it still uses the
resources for those functions.



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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Craig
White

Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:18 AM
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On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 10:43 -0700, Stephen wrote:

> It also explains the "cobble" mentality that alot of people have.
----
the 'cobble mentality' is core to open source. Everywhere you turn you find
it.

The whole notion is that you don't have to supply a dictionary and an engine
to access it but rather your program merely uses the aspell api and you have
access to a functional spell checker. Each application builds upon the
various other libraries that are available.

Whereas Linux and open source in general provides software a rich platform
to develop (license compatibility withstanding), the Microsoft platform
continues to shrink as Microsoft absorbs core applications and technologies
either by purchase or by adoption.
----
> so in reviewing what is out there i personally am thinking fedora
> federated server, and i think free IPA as the core, because that is a
> solid base to start from and will give a very ready path to replacing
> MS ad for windows clients. I would consider OpenSUSE but they do not
> have a non-commercial AD replacement, only Commercial.
----
again, we are looking towards a monolithic, packaged solution which
understandably becomes a corporate driven integration of various open source
tools. I suspect at some point in the future, freeipa will be a core service
for all but the most die hard Windows shops. All of these tools actually
exist today but the neat, single package concept clearly motivates some
people...I get that. Recognize though, that any packaging becomes a limiting
factor because it dictates setup, configuration and behavior.

Craig

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