OT: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet

Lisa Kachold lisakachold at obnosis.com
Mon Aug 31 20:08:13 MST 2009


On 8/31/09, Jason Spatafore <jason_online at spatafore.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 17:16 -0700, Austin William Wright wrote:
>> These additional powers being granted to the executive branch must be
>> stopped at all costs. We have already seen what happens when we give
>> the
>> president the (unconstitutional) power to declare war. Do your
>> research
>> on the bills and write, but especially, phone our senators and your
>> representative.
>
> Yes, because "all costs" are defined as "write or phone your senator and
> representative". In my book, "all costs" involves murder, mayhem, guns,
> armor, and an all out civil war. Be careful about using "all costs" in
> any way.
>
> No, I will continue to demand my right to vote in every election and on
> every bill. We are a constitutional republic and I tell you now that I
> *do not accept* how this country is being run and how the power lies in
> the few. You have provided ample examples already of how tyranny will
> continue in this government. I will execute the powers that I have. And
> the only power *I* possess is my ability to vote.
>
> And the *few* have already oppressed that enough.
>
> However, until I am provided the ability to voice my concerns with a
> quantifiable result (called a vote), this country *is broken*. I will
> not "call my Senator" because, honestly, he isn't going to listen (I'm
> not a Republican and therefore, did not scratch his back during the
> election). He can't handle all the calls and make the appointments and
> take care of his constituents. Sure, when the Constitution was written,
> it was possible for a Senator and Representative to keep up with the
> 1000 constituents he had to report to...but that is not how it is today,
> and it doesn't work anymore.

Linux Asterisk recorded call via schedule will do that for you?

Simply setup the dial out numbers and recorded speil in the SugarCRM
FreePBX dial patterns.

> So, continue to bring forth your call to arms and literally *beg* the
> elected official to do your bidding. Kiss that butt of Senator McCain
> and polish his shoes and maybe he will hear you out. Take him to lunch,
> if you can get on his appointment book, and express your concerns, then
> hope and pray that he listened.

And in a free country, every single time a useful law is not enforced,
beit federal wage exploits for field engineers, rental abuses
(especially in favor of others disregarded through civil disobedience)
take it to court!  If you fail to talk directly about what it wrong to
the right sources, you fail to hold a line.

How many of us work 60 hour weeks on salary, as a 30 hour support
person and 30 hour engineer at a field office, NOC on call 24X7,
driving in on holidays after oncall without pay or working from home?
We all know there are 200 others queued up behind us willing to work
harder, so we do it.  But is this healthy?  Is this legal?

How many of us endure rental air conditioning beyond 80 degrees in the
summer in Arizona?   It's also illegal.

If you disagree with outsourcing to Pakistan and India, don't work for
Intel or Micro$oft.
If you disagree with chicken chemical and animal farming via
antibiotics, don't eat at Churches or KFC, and don't buy from Safeway.

But as a people, do we do this?  Do we even know our own power?  Our
greatest vote is with our almightly dollar.

> And when you find out that all was for naught...that he already made up
> his mind long before you came to his office. That you're down a lunch
> and the President has the powers (same an granted to him in the Patriot
> Act)...when you realize that your Senator didn't even read the bill..and
> really didn't care to because he had a golf game to improve..when you
> realize that your Senator is *no better* than a direct Democracy, maybe
> you'll realize that it's better to have a direct say in the matter and
> watch the vote not go your way than beg somebody else to watch the vote
> not go your way.

Yes, how do we flowchart any course back to the freedom of my father's
era, so lamented by the constitutional libertarians on this list?

> Either way, you may not get what *you* want..but at least in a direct
> Democracy, you'll know that your voice was as equal as everybody
> else's...and that is saying a lot more than can be said today.

Yes, we have no say - accept the Matrix for what it is.

"Freedum, Serfdom, Fiefdom - Don't trust anything with a "dum" on the end of it.
The only freedom we have is through responsibility"  -John  Trudel




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