Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet

keith smith klsmith2020 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 31 17:43:42 MST 2009


Good feedback Austin!

I have become increasingly involved in politics lately.  Through this process I have come to discover that the only way we will stay free is if we read the Federalist Papers to get an idea of what the Founding Fathers wanted and intended of the Constitution.

We must read and know the Constitution and every Amendment and know the Bill-of-Rights front and backwards.

Everything is a matter of law.  Don't know the law then you will be a victim.

Politicians are liars. They have one and only one agenda - live like the ruling class.  We have allowed for this to flourish.

Want to hold office?  Do it as a servant who is honored to hold a high office that does good not evil.

We have the power.  It is clearly stated in the 10th Amendment as stated by Austin
     
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The Constitution list exactly what each branch of the Federal Government can and cannot do. All we have to do is inform ourselves "We the People", and enforce the law.

Simple really.  Just takes a few hours a week for a few weeks to understand how much power we really have.

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Keith Smith


--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Austin William Wright <diamondmagic at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> From: Austin William Wright <diamondmagic at users.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 5:16 PM
> Jason Spatafore wrote:
> > Give me direct vote on all laws that are presented to
> Congress. That is
> > all I ask. Until then, this conversation is pretty
> much over. It's going
> > to be a constant republican vs. democrat vs.
> independent debate that
> > constantly occurs every single day. 
> >
> > Just give me my vote. Don't give the Senator or State
> Representative my
> > vote. Give *ME MY VOTE*. 
> >
> > Until then, everything we say...every action we take,
> is just rhetorical
> > and wasteful to our entire society. 
> >
> > If the people got to vote on national healthcare...it
> would have already
> > passed. If the people got to vote on legalizing
> tobacco sales, they
> > would be banned. If the people got to vote on
> legalizing marijuana, it
> > would still be illegal (by narrow margin). 
> >
> > But the bottom line is that we don't get to vote. We
> have to figure out
> > the smoke screens and guess who the better candidate
> is. We shouldn't be
> > figuring out people and betting on them...we should be
> having our say
> > and moving on with our day. I propose every Thursday
> being voting
> > day..that way, we have our weekends to celebrate and
> mourn the
> > results. :) 
> >   
> Wrong sir. Our founding fathers were VERY AFRAID that this
> kind of
> thinking would some day emerge, and they set up very plain
> language in
> the Constitution to try and prevent that. "/Congress shall
> make no
> law...//abridging the freedom of speech"/ It doesn't get
> much clearer
> than that. How about "/The powers not delegated to the
> United States by
> the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are
> reserved to
> the States respectively, or to the people./"
> 
> We are NOT a democracy. We are a constitutional republic.
> There are
> rulers, and there are the ruled, and with the implication
> that the
> rulers are always better off, a constitution was written
> that severely
> limited the power of any one person or group of people. The
> founding
> fathers recognized the danger of one group of people
> appointing the
> rulers - that is why no one group of people does so. It is
> why the
> president with the consent of the senate appoints judges,
> it is why
> judges hold lifetime office, it is why we have the
> electoral college
> system - so no one person has all the power. If you cannot
> explicitly
> find where in the Constitution a power is delegated to a
> particular
> individual, that power is unconstitutional to hold. Period.
> If you want
> to change it, I suggest you propose an amendment, because
> the meaning of
> our constitution DOES NOT CHANGE. If it did, there would be
> no way to
> enforce it or seek out its enemies, "foreign or domestic."
> Selectively
> interpreting the Constitution is a very slippery slope that
> will lead to
> disaster, or people in power who you do not agree with (our
> current and
> previous presidents come to mind). Selectively interpreting
> the
> Constitution will inevitably lead to your loss of any right
> granted to
> you under it, because "the majority of people think so."
> 
> Democracy is nothing but tyranny of the majority. I was
> walking through
> Boston recently, and coming to the Holocaust memorial I saw
> a quote, a
> common variation of which goes as follows:
> 
> First they came for the Jews
> and I did not speak out
> because I was not a Jew.
> Then they came for the Communists
> and I did not speak out
> because I was not a Communist.
> Then they came for the trade unionists
> and I did not speak out
> because I was not a trade unionist.
> Then they came for me
> and there was no one left
> to speak out for me.
> 
>  Martin Niemöller
> 
> This serves as a warning, democracy does not protect
> rights. It enforces
> the coercive will of the majority.
> 
> These additional powers being granted to the executive
> branch must be
> stopped at all costs. We have already seen what happens
> when we give the
> president the (unconstitutional) power to declare war. Do
> your research
> on the bills and write, but especially, phone our senators
> and your
> representative.
> 
> If you have any further defenses of democracy I would be
> happy to
> entertain them.
> 
> Austin Wright.
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